gun training

[dkst]

Are there any schools that civilians can go to train in gun use. I'm looking at taking my KM training to the next level. Would love to learn how to shoot, clear rooms, basically military/swat type of techniques both gun and hand to hand.

[BrentW]

Try this place
www.internationaltactical.com

Scott is AMAZING. We do all out summer camps with them as the firearms instructor and I have taken all levels of his training for handgun. His teaching style and techniques are very similar to the way we teach Krav Maga. In my opinion he's the Darren Levine of firearms.

I watched him hit a target a little over 1 and half times a human width at 400 yards with a 1911. I would call that impressive.

[KravMDjeff]

Brent, is that the place that they took the KM instructors for advanced LEO? I heard it was pretty amazing.

[BrentW]

That's it, although it is not normally that cold. ;-)

[H2H]

Recently took a class with ADE and it was awesome. We worked our way in a shoot house and learn how to clear rooms as well.

http://www.americandefenseenterprises.com/

( they are based in L.A though)


Also check for Pat Rogers in your area: he is a reference in the business.

http://www.eagtactical.com/courses.asp


Also ITTS as mentioned by Brent.
Best would be to go to the next KM summer camp so you could give it a try.


-G

[JFOX]

H2H- Where is ADE located? Sifting through the website, I couldn't find an actual address of where classes are held. Looks interesting though.

[H2H]

LAX shooting range and also Burro Canyon shooting range in the desert outside of L.A. ( awesome range by the way)

[unstpabl1]

Go to the NRA website. Go to your local gun shops and ranges and talk to people. You'll hear the good, the bad and the ugly. Read anything by Gabe Suarez. Stay away from Glocktalk. This is how it was put to me when I asked the same question 8)

[Giant Killer]

I also went to the Burro Canyon shooting range for the gun course. It was great. They taught us newbies how to accurately hit a target in a very short period of time. They also talked about shooting while walking and then we went to the shoot house.

They did a demonstration on how to clear a house in pairs, which was pretty impressive.

Some of the things they taught us included how to correctly draw and aim your weapon, making sure not to put your hand in front of the gun as you are grabbing it with your support hand and aiming it at the target.

They said to grab the gun as tightly as possible, then kind of push against the handle with the palm of your right hand and push into the opposite direction with the fingers of your left. Then put the tip of the finger against the trigger when shooting, not wrap it all the way around, because it would pull your shot to the right.

One big rookie mistake is to anticipate the shot and then jerk your hand, so you'll miss your target. They told us to avoid this by NOT thinking about the shot, but rather to \"be surprised\" by it. Gently pull the trigger, take out the slack until, suddenly, the gun fires. They said that if you don't think about the shot going off, you won't do that jerky motion that will make you miss.

We also worked on multiple shots, here they told us not to let the trigger go all the way back after the first shot, but only as far as necessary to chamber the next round. This also made the shots faster and more accurate.

About aiming the gun, they said to focus on the sights, not the target, for greater accuracy.

This was all really cool and I think we all learned a lot.

At the beginning of the day, I couldn't hit a huge target about five feet in front of me, but by the end of the day, after just a few hours, I actually hit one quite well about 20 feet away (in the shoot house).

We'll be going back next Saturday, can't wait! :D

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