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Old 09-18-2011, 04:24 AM   #1
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Has anyone seen them? They are getting fantastic reviews. I will have to plant the seed in my wife's ear for Christmas.
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Old 09-18-2011, 12:26 PM   #2
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I have. They are good, though, as I noted in another thread, he shows some basic things (like the fighting stance) much differently than they are taught in KMWW. The principles seem consistent with what I've been taught so far, but some specifics in technique differ.
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Old 09-18-2011, 02:08 PM   #3
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I have. They are good, though, as I noted in another thread, he shows some basic things (like the fighting stance) much differently than they are taught in KMWW. The principles seem consistent with what I've been taught so far, but some specifics in technique differ.

Is the "Gidon System" the least evolved? Not saying not good, mind you, just least changed from Imi's original teachings?
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Is the "Gidon System" the least evolved? Not saying not good, mind you, just least changed from Imi's original teachings?
I have no idea. Hopefully someone who does know will chime in.
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Old 09-18-2011, 04:39 PM   #5
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I have. They are good, though, as I noted in another thread, he shows some basic things (like the fighting stance) much differently than they are taught in KMWW. The principles seem consistent with what I've been taught so far, but some specifics in technique differ.
David does teach the stance a little different, but he also add that it is HIS preference and that it is optional.

His original instructor(and mine) Rick Blitstein doesn't teach it that way, nor do I.

As far as being the least evolved system, there are some people that have said that Haim's system has added too much ground fighting to it, which is very different from the original system. He also is constantly refining it based on current threats faced in Israel. People who would do us harm are always evolving, so we have to as well.

I rather focus on not going to the ground, and if I do, get up as quick as possible before others arrive. Dirty fighting does, that, not fancy locks.

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Old 09-18-2011, 06:20 PM   #6
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David does teach the stance a little different, but he also add that it is HIS preference and that it is optional.

His original instructor(and mine) Rick Blitstein doesn't teach it that way, nor do I.

As far as being the least evolved system, there are some people that have said that Haim's system has added too much ground fighting to it, which is very different from the original system. He also is constantly refining it based on current threats faced in Israel. People who would do us harm are always evolving, so we have to as well.

I rather focus on not going to the ground, and if I do, get up as quick as possible before others arrive. Dirty fighting does, that, not fancy locks.

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Old 09-18-2011, 07:05 PM   #7
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I think it's important to note that when one is at this level of skill, there is not a set dogma for stance, movement etc. Khan is a very dynamic practitioner, as well as most of the top level dudes from all associations.

Krav Maga, while having certain tenets and core concepts is, at heart much about conservation of movement and simplicity. To see a top level practitioner regardless of affiliation, deviate from some minor form in syllabus, is expected and should be expoounded and encouraged after the core movements are worked to death and beyond. I'm pretty sure Darren, John, Eyal, David, Itay et al. Have earned the the right to improvise for fluidity of motion.

I also agree with Plantman that going to the ground, in Krav Maga presences, is a secondary option. I too have seen Khan shift some emphasis to takedowns to the ground and Wonder if it's just not a sign of the times. Why take yourself (with your opponent) to the ground if you don't have to?

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Old 11-14-2011, 06:26 AM   #8
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Thank you for your interest in my DVDs. The fighting stance we use in Israel is bladed rather than square. Principally, this configuration is to protect the groin but it also allows for quicker defensive movement because of the body's weight distribution slightly over the front leg while resting on both balls of the feet. Also, the stance allows for quicker foreleg defensive and offensive movements along with the straight lead punch/kick because the feet are not pointed directly forward but, rather, are pre-positioned. The fingers are not splayed to prevent their being attacked. Essentially, you are not leaving your center-line open.

Regarding groundwork, as those who have seen the DVDs will concur, I specifically emphasize not going to ground. However, given the skill of today's amateur and professional fighters alike, we need to be competent on the ground, hence, our learning certain takedowns to understand the takedown dynamic to better counter it. If you are taken down, you must understand how to counter any of the myriad bars, chokes, and locks which are becoming increasingly prevalent not to mention weapon assaults. As you guys know, generally, if you can fight against a trained fighter, you can fight against an untrained fighter, but not necessarily the other way around. To be sure, untrained fighters also pose their own specific risks.

Lastly, most people outside of a small circle of original practitioners in Israel do not know that Imi formally approved many of these modifications and additions made by Haim Gidon in the early 1990's while sitting in the IKMA's main training center observing the evolution of krav maga. From the IKMA's standpoint, the system has not changed to put a personal imprint on it, but, rather to make it, what I consider to be the most effective fighting system in the world. Please feel free to respond to this or any pose any additional questions you might like.

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Old 11-14-2011, 08:08 AM   #9
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Thank you for your interest in my DVDs. The fighting stance we use in Israel is bladed rather than square. Principally, this configuration is to protect the groin but it also allows for quicker defensive movement because of the body's weight distribution slightly over the front leg while resting on both balls of the feet. Also, the stance allows for quicker foreleg defensive and offensive movements along with the straight lead punch/kick because the feet are not pointed directly forward but, rather, are pre-positioned. The fingers are not splayed to prevent their being attacked. Essentially, you are not leaving your center-line open.

Regarding groundwork, as those who have seen the DVDs will concur, I specifically emphasize not going to ground. However, given the skill of today's amateur and professional fighters alike, we need to be competent on the ground, hence, our learning certain takedowns to understand the takedown dynamic to better counter it. If you are taken down, you must understand how to counter any of the myriad bars, chokes, and locks which are becoming increasingly prevalent not to mention weapon assaults. As you guys know, generally, if you can fight against a trained fighter, you can fight against an untrained fighter, but not necessarily the other way around. To be sure, untrained fighters also pose their own specific risks.

Lastly, most people outside of a small circle of original practitioners in Israel do not know that Imi formally approved many of these modifications and additions made by Haim Gidon in the early 1990's while sitting in the IKMA's main training center observing the evolution of krav maga. From the IKMA's standpoint, the system has not changed to put a personal imprint on it, but, rather to make it, what I consider to be the most effective fighting system in the world. Please feel free to respond to this or any pose any additional questions you might like.

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Thanks for responding. I recently saw a credit card charge for the DVD set on our statement. I'm very excited. Merry Christmas to me!
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Old 11-15-2011, 02:53 PM   #10
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The books are Simply amazing. I had purchased them before I started with KMWW and have found them still useful three years later. I just ordered the DVD's they will be here in a week so happy early X-mas/B-day to me, yeyeah!.
Mr. Kahn you sir are a Krav'ma'god! Cheers! I will comment again after I review the courses.
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Old 11-15-2011, 03:45 PM   #11
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Hi all

Let me firstly state that I am an IKMF practitioner (so I have no bias for or against the IKMA/Gidon System).

These DVDs are truly fantastic tools to assist your current training. In fact, I have yet to see better content driven material on Krav Maga in any format. The instruction is A-1, communicated eloquently and clearly (David states that it is preferred to not go to ground, but the current reality is that it may end up there and with a trained grappler). It is better to know than not to know.

It's also great to see some options that adhere to strict use of force laws — some of these 'fancy locks' may save you as well as the attacker (depending on case by case scenarios).

I couldn't wait for Christmas so I got mine early!! You won't be disappointed in the least!
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Old 11-15-2011, 05:01 PM   #12
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Guys,

Thank you for your interest in my DVDs. The fighting stance we use in Israel is bladed rather than square. Principally, this configuration is to protect the groin but it also allows for quicker defensive movement because of the body's weight distribution slightly over the front leg while resting on both balls of the feet. Also, the stance allows for quicker foreleg defensive and offensive movements along with the straight lead punch/kick because the feet are not pointed directly forward but, rather, are pre-positioned. The fingers are not splayed to prevent their being attacked. Essentially, you are not leaving your center-line open.

Regarding groundwork, as those who have seen the DVDs will concur, I specifically emphasize not going to ground. However, given the skill of today's amateur and professional fighters alike, we need to be competent on the ground, hence, our learning certain takedowns to understand the takedown dynamic to better counter it. If you are taken down, you must understand how to counter any of the myriad bars, chokes, and locks which are becoming increasingly prevalent not to mention weapon assaults. As you guys know, generally, if you can fight against a trained fighter, you can fight against an untrained fighter, but not necessarily the other way around. To be sure, untrained fighters also pose their own specific risks.

Lastly, most people outside of a small circle of original practitioners in Israel do not know that Imi formally approved many of these modifications and additions made by Haim Gidon in the early 1990's while sitting in the IKMA's main training center observing the evolution of krav maga. From the IKMA's standpoint, the system has not changed to put a personal imprint on it, but, rather to make it, what I consider to be the most effective fighting system in the world. Please feel free to respond to this or any pose any additional questions you might like.

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Welcome to the forum David!

I haven't had the opportunity to view your DVDs or books, but from what I'm reading here, sounds like I need to start

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Old 11-16-2011, 06:36 AM   #13
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Hi Everyone,

Thank you again for your warm welcome. Another point following up on Plantman's insights might be of interest. Obviously, the krav maga taught within the IDF and Israeli security establishment has evolved to better meet modern threats and professional needs. For example, with the IDF's eventual adoption of the Tavor (a bull-up assault rifle the length of which is considerably shorter than the M-4's and M-16's now in use, not to mention the IDF's historical rifles such as the FN FAL, Mauser's, Lee-Enfields) because of its design, modifies its use as a cold-weapon. But tactics in some sense also come full circle because of the IDF's use of the Uzi sub-machinegun. In addition, specific edged weapons and their use also require Israeli krav maga's evolution and modification to counter these threats. Grandmaster Haim Gidon and Sgt. Major (res.) Nir Maman are very much involved in this process.

On the civilian side as well, as I noted in my first post, modifications to the traditional curriculum of the 1980's are also required because of the increasingly widespread popularity of MMA. People have much easier access to learning professional chokes, throws, takedowns and fighting skills. I show these and some of the corresponding core defensive tactics in the DVDs.

As one example of Israeli krav maga's evolution to counter some of these tactics, our particular bear-hug defense from the rear (hands free) recognizes that many people will no longer grab you from behind without burying their heads. Of course, by burying their heads, they can negate krav maga's successive counter-elbow strikes. Also, in leaning heavily forward, the defender can set himself up for a trip that will drive him hard face first into the ground with the attacker's choice of whether to go to ground with him (having taken his back) or simply let go and kick the defender in the back of his head.

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@David Kahn: Hi there! Got a few questions I hope you might have time to answer:
1. I train in krav maga global system, what would you say differs IKMA from that? If I understand correct, the techniques are quite the same in most KM systems, but the syllabus/curriculums are built different. Am I right or way off?
2. The ground- and takedown-techniques you use - would you care to present them short here? Just curious to see what you put into it. I respect if you wanna keep them to those that actually train your stuff, but as most systems are transparent anyhow these days - you might wanna share here?
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Old 11-18-2011, 06:23 AM   #15
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The IKMA under Grandmaster Gidon does have some significant differences both in both training and approach compared to the other organizations. The IKMA (Gidon System) focuses on both self-defense and hand-to-hand combat. At the higher training levels, one must be able to successfully defend against a professionally trained attacker -- hand-to-hand combat.

I can tell you first hand that until I trained in Israel, I really did not understand that there was any siginfiicant difference between organizations and the top instructors. But my first instructor Rick Blitstein understood this well when he sent me to the IKMA for my instructor training. In short, seeing is believing. Obviously, with the breadth of video now available, comparisons are somewhat more accessible.

Grandmaster Gidon also tests the IKMA's techniques against resistance and a non-compliant opponent. To this day, Haim actively trains/fights with us on the mat. He does not simply teach or theorize.

Haim visited us this past October for our annual U.S. course and we had opportunity to discuss yet again the ongoing evolution of the system. Haim noted that all of the other krav maga organizations are now trying to adopt groundwork. Many of these organizations' top instructors are personally training with groundwork specialists.

It should be noted again, that Haim began developing the IKMA's groundwork approach under Imi's watchful eye in the early 1990's before most others realized the necessity of street oriented groundwork. Most importantly, Haim adopted a krav maga approach rather than a sport-oriented approach.

There are also significant differences in our weapon defenses, again, approved by Imi.
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Old 11-18-2011, 11:42 AM   #16
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The books are Simply amazing. I had purchased them before I started with KMWW and have found them still useful three years later. I just ordered the DVD's they will be here in a week so happy early X-mas/B-day to me, yeyeah!.
Mr. Kahn you sir are a Krav'ma'god! Cheers! I will comment again after I review the courses.
Are you talking about the "Krav Maga: Essential Guide to Renowned Method for Fitness and Self Defense" and "Advanced Krav Maga"?

I'll be looking to pick up the DVD set too. It's a 6 DVD set correct? I'm always looking to improve my knowledge and compare techniques of various Krav Maga experts and choose what works best for me!
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Sorry yes i was refering to "Krav Maga: Essential Guide to Renowned Method for Fitness and Self Defense" and "Advanced Krav Maga" Should have my DVD's tomorrow.
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The IKMA under Grandmaster Gidon does have some significant differences both in both training and approach compared to the other organizations. The IKMA (Gidon System) focuses on both self-defense and hand-to-hand combat. At the higher training levels, one must be able to successfully defend against a professionally trained attacker -- hand-to-hand combat.

I can tell you first hand that until I trained in Israel, I really did not understand that there was any siginfiicant difference between organizations and the top instructors. But my first instructor Rick Blitstein understood this well when he sent me to the IKMA for my instructor training. In short, seeing is believing. Obviously, with the breadth of video now available, comparisons are somewhat more accessible.

Grandmaster Gidon also tests the IKMA's techniques against resistance and a non-compliant opponent. To this day, Haim actively trains/fights with us on the mat. He does not simply teach or theorize.

Haim visited us this past October for our annual U.S. course and we had opportunity to discuss yet again the ongoing evolution of the system. Haim noted that all of the other krav maga organizations are now trying to adopt groundwork. Many of these organizations' top instructors are personally training with groundwork specialists.

It should be noted again, that Haim began developing the IKMA's groundwork approach under Imi's watchful eye in the early 1990's before most others realized the necessity of street oriented groundwork. Most importantly, Haim adopted a krav maga approach rather than a sport-oriented approach.

There are also significant differences in our weapon defenses, again, approved by Imi.

Thanks for a great answer David! Got some follow up questions:

These "significant differences" in your weapon defenses -could you give an example on how they differ from IKMF or KMG?

Regarding the groundwork - is that too very different from what IKMF/KMG does?
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Yes, I'll provide a couple of examples focusing on handgun threat from the front. I'll also caveat while the difference may seem subtle to some, the all-important potential outcome is why I'll call it a significant difference.

When forced to react against a handgun threat from the front, we deflect-redirect using a similar body defense to what you have probably seen. The crucial difference is we move deep to the deadside using an elbow kiss to pin the assailant's forearm to his torso while actually positioning the defender to the deadside to exert maximum control of the firearm.

We do not stay to the opponent's front (liveside exposure) because if the defender does succeed in knocking the assailant down, the defender is not in a good tactical position to move and control the weapon. Most importantly, either the assailant can wrench the handgun from the defender's control (even as he is pummeled) or the assailant falls backwards as a result of the counter-attack pulling the defender with him (defender dares not let go of the handgun) with all of the dangers that snafu entails. Additionally, while violence of action is paramount the simultaneous defend and attack mode, we do not provide the assailant an opportunity to resist or fight back with his free arm.

Another significant difference is we do not cross the body to defend if we had a companion to the right or if the assailant were on "a diagonal threat from the front, from a distance." Grandmaster Gidon developed an improved defense. I cover these and many other weapon defense differences in my forthcoming third book, Krav Maga Weapon Defenses (700 photographs).

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Yes, I'll provide a couple of examples focusing on handgun threat from the front. I'll also caveat while the difference may seem subtle to some, the all-important potential outcome is why I'll call it a significant difference.

When forced to react against a handgun threat from the front, we deflect-redirect using a similar body defense to what you have probably seen. The crucial difference is we move deep to the deadside using an elbow kiss to pin the assailant's forearm to his torso while actually positioning the defender to the deadside to exert maximum control of the firearm.

We do not stay to the opponent's front (liveside exposure) because if the defender does succeed in knocking the assailant down, the defender is not in a good tactical position to move and control the weapon. Most importantly, either the assailant can wrench the handgun from the defender's control (even as he is pummeled) or the assailant falls backwards as a result of the counter-attack pulling the defender with him (defender dares not let go of the handgun) with all of the dangers that snafu entails. Additionally, while violence of action is paramount the simultaneous defend and attack mode, we do not provide the assailant an opportunity to resist or fight back with his free arm.

Another significant difference is we do not cross the body to defend if we had a companion to the right or if the assailant were on "a diagonal threat from the front, from a distance." Grandmaster Gidon developed an improved defense. I cover these and many other weapon defense differences in my forthcoming third book, Krav Maga Weapon Defenses (700 photographs).
This sounds exactly how I was taught in IKMF. I can hardly wait until Christmas Eve, when with Oscar caliber feigned surprise I open your DVD set. My IKMF instructors hold you in the highest regard.
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@davidkahn: Thanks. Very illuminating answer indeed!
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Hi David, without seeing the video and reading the description of the standing stance sideways make a lot of sense as far groin protection is concerned.

I do not know if you realize I am Deaf and use American Sign Language (ASL).

I always thought it never made sense to allow yourself to be hit & to give and take hits. ( strikes )

The emphasis should be on avoiding hits and giving out 100% hits. Easier said than done but with practice this can be possible through eye-hand coordination and improved quick time responses.

I think because of using sign language, I can see a thousand different applications to one situation.

The emphasis on getting a person's hand over gun defense is not good because it goes into an awkard position as the person's arm goes outside the assailant's arm to grab the gun. This in my opinion is wrong for many reasons. What should be done is take advantage of the natural positioning of the body/arm of the assailant and using your own arm/hand blows with sheer power delevoped through practice, you can actually break his arm and at the same time through sheer & violent force push his arm out of the way knocking the gun out of his hand & throwing powerful chinjabbing blows to his chin. His neck hurts, too bad he should not have been robbing people to begin with then using violent & hard karate chops on his throat as he falls down, the knee connects with the spine and hammerfist strikes to the chest & his ribcage. Why punch his jaw when there are far better options available plus using multiple forces at once is much better too.

I know this because I fought with someone at an ATM machine and saw right away had I used that kind of gun defense common in krav maga and another martial arts ( not a criticism by the way if you can understand what I am saying here. )

I refuse to be a victim of poor martial art teaching which is what almost killed me and ever since, I have been studying the martial arts and looking in the medical and scientific fields where martial arts are concerned.

The laws in the U.S.A. need to be better suited to victims of violent crimes. Castle doctrine is a good start and the laws concerning martial arts need to change to where the bad guys are actually punished and NOT THE VICTIMS BEING PUNISHED. I do not know what the laws are like in Israel but if they are anything like in the U.S.A. then that needs to change too.
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This has been on my mind for several years now.

When I say Krav Maga, I am saying all of the krav maga organizations under KMWW and other KM organizations.

Please do not take this the wrong way. You guys all are doing good work in your respective organizations which is excellent and there is always room for better improvement & under one roof this can be made so much better with flexibility and being open-minded & sharing your research at annual meetings.

I have often wondered what the family of Imi Litchenfeld has to say about Krav Maga right now being called a ladie's and kid's fitness center.

There are almost no krav maga martial art competitions displaying men's insane levels of physical fitness and martial fighting ability & prowess etc.

There is so much fighting in the courts over the legal name of krav maga etc.

I think it is time all KM organizations came under one roof all the way from Israel.

Israel is literally fighting for their life right now with the martial arts of Asia, Arab and Soviet countries posied to attack Israel, just as foretold in the Bible. This is not Abraham's 300 trained army. The martial arts of today will rival anything Abraham every had in medical & scientific fields etc.

This is where I think the medical & scientific field of Krav Maga and other fields need to come under one roof again.

Krav Maga needs to hold men's martial art competitions on all 7 continents or 7 lands in the sporting arena and much more.

KRAV MAGA WILL BE THE GOLDEN STANDARD WHERE MARTIAL ARTS ARE COMPARED. [ TO SOMEDAY ]
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One last thing, I think it was no accident that God of Israel himself had a man with the last name of Lichtenfeld be responsible for the revival of Israeli martial arts.

I do not know the meaning of Lichtenfeld in Hebrew but being an American, it is clear as day to me that his last name is almost spelled field of research.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imi_Lichtenfeld
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Moderators: You can delete my posts as necessary. It is something that had to be said.

You can take these things into consideration " in-house " to make things better for Krav Maga.
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One last thing, I think it was no accident that God of Israel himself had a man with the last name of Lichtenfeld be responsible for the revival of Israeli martial arts.

I do not know the meaning of Lichtenfeld in Hebrew but being an American, it is clear as day to me that his last name is almost spelled field of research.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imi_Lichtenfeld
Lichtenfeld is German for "bright field," Sde-Or is the same in Hebrew.
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Just watched disc one. Fantastic in every way. Some variation in technique from my IKMF training but expertly explained. Some additions that are not covered in the IKMF P-level syllabus. Thanks wife......Merry Christmas to me.
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Old 12-30-2011, 08:16 AM   #28
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I have now watched the entire series. In a word......Fantastic. Highly recommended to students of other organizations(I'm IKMF.) I think we sometimes get overly attached to our own group.

Bravo David Kahn and IKMA for making this available to us all.
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Old 01-01-2012, 08:50 PM   #29
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Top notch videos !!
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Old 01-03-2012, 04:33 PM   #30
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Hmm ... Getting them ASAP.
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Old 02-11-2012, 09:21 PM   #31
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I got the DVD set a few weeks ago and think it is an awesome DVD collection. I have not been able to train much the last few years the DVDs are a great learning tool. I am using them to get back in training shape and to refresh my knowledge of KM. I highly recommend this purchase for anyone looking for a quality KM DVD set.
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Old 02-13-2012, 08:17 PM   #32
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i always get inspired when following back on the gidon's family history and the close relationship they have with KM. keep up the good work, and one can only dream that perhaps someday in the future there will be a more unified approach towards KM - as in not having multiple organizations doing their own thing. All in all, Having a cohesive curriculum could bring KM to a better place.

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Old 04-11-2012, 02:34 PM   #33
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i always get inspired when following back on the gidon's family history and the close relationship they have with KM. keep up the good work, and one can only dream that perhaps someday in the future there will be a more unified approach towards KM - as in not having multiple organizations doing their own thing. All in all, Having a cohesive curriculum could bring KM to a better place.
Amen ! That is the point.
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Old 05-06-2012, 02:58 PM   #34
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I'm buying them, they seem like awesome supplements.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:25 PM   #35
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Would this set be good for a beginner that does not have access to formal instruction? (I know nothing can replace formal instruction, but something is better than nothing) I come from a TKD and MMA background, but I have not formally trained in awhile. I have Levine's beginner book, but I am a visual learner, and I think I would get more out of watching and mimicking.

Thanks in advance for your replies, and if I apologize if I have overlooked a thread that answers the question.
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:39 PM   #36
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Can somebody explain some of the differences between DAvid Kahn and the IKMA as it compared to the KMWW system.

I have skimmed his book and some of the weapon stuff look totally different.
Anybody explain.
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Old 11-30-2012, 04:26 AM   #37
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I think it is no different than jiu jitsu & judo and karate at the black belt levels as there is a lot to learn, even so more with krav maga because this is a martial art based on medical & scientific knowledge as well the art of krav maga is constantly being tested in real world situations.

To give you an idea of the medical & scientific achievements of the boxing world here in the U.S.A.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/outd...sports-science

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...t-science.html

http://www.fighttimes.com/magazine/m...sp?article=645


I think different branches of Krav Maga studies what they study and reports back to Israel's medical and scientific martial art team at the Wingate Institiute in Netanya, Israel.

http://www.jewishsports.net/wingate_institute.htm
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Can somebody explain some of the differences between DAvid Kahn and the IKMA as it compared to the KMWW system.

I have skimmed his book and some of the weapon stuff look totally different.
Anybody explain.
You should send a message to David Kahn. I believe he will be happy to explain the differences as he sees them.
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:24 PM   #39
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Kahn is a master of Krav MAGA.
It is just the KMWW has some different changes for the weapon moves. I looked at his book adn the changes were enough that it would be impossible for me to change. Once it is built in and you have the memory down it is very hard to correct to a different type of krav.
All the different Krav's probably have their own distinct changes. I just hope my KRAV works in real life lol.l
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:17 PM   #40
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drop the word "changes" and replace it with "variation". Its a better way to approach your training and your understanding of Krav Maga and its techniques and concepts.
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