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  • #33082
    kmman
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    I started training late i life and most of the students my age started training in other arts since the most popular arts of that time 70s and 80s were traditional arts. It does seem those arts served as a very good base for Krav Maga.

    I am wondering for a teenager today, with things like Krav Maga ans now sports such as MMA is it still a good idea to get that “base” in a traditional art?

    Im sure more and more people start with Krav Maga now so Im wondring if anyone has thoughts on this.

    Should my 15 year old get a base in boxing, Judo etc or jump straight into an RBSD like Krav Maga.

    #82703
    bear34
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    Re: Starting Age

    My daughter(then 10) took about two months worth of classes in a traditional karate form and didn’t learn much more than “Bow to Masters…Bow to Sensei.” She found it utterly boring.
    Fast forward a year later, in her first couple of Krav Maga classes she is fending off multiple attackers(adult class..no kids classes at my location) learning releases from chokes and bearhugs and all in all developing skills that she can use today.
    With all that said, I wish I had unlimited money and we would take MT, Judo, Systema, BJJ and boxing as well. I think you let your 15 year old try several arts and let them find their passion.

    #82712
    oldkmdude
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    Re: Starting Age

    Personally, I don’t think Krav would be a great fit for kids. For most of the situations that kids are likely to encounter, Krav is just too much. I’d have a hard time explaining to a parent why my 5th grader broke another 5th grader’s nose and gouged out his eyes, even if the other kid started it.

    I think BJJ is actually a great martial art for kids. For one thing, it’s a thriving sport with regular competitions to keep them interested. Also, it’s more than adequate to handle the types of fights that they’re likely to get into.

    Another great “martial art” is wrestling, which is part of the athletic program at at most schools. I think that with a solid base in BJJ early on and then wrestling when they get older they’d be pretty hard to mess with, and Krav would be fine once they hit their teenage years and are likely to have to deal with more serious threats.

    I’m not naive. I’ve had guns pulled on me a few times, the first of which was in 8th grade at school. For now, though, I’m planning to hold off on having my kids start Krav at least until age 14 or 15. But that’s just one dad’s opinion and reasonable people can disagree.

    #82747
    tomo
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    Re: Starting Age

    quote oldKMdude:

    I think BJJ is actually a great martial art for kids. For one thing, it’s a thriving sport with regular competitions to keep them interested. Also, it’s more than adequate to handle the types of fights that they’re likely to get into.

    Another great “martial art” is wrestling, which is part of the athletic program at at most schools. I think that with a solid base in BJJ early on and then wrestling when they get older they’d be pretty hard to mess with, and Krav would be fine once they hit their teenage years and are likely to have to deal with more serious threats.

    ^^^^
    This

    I would also consider western style Boxing or Muay Thai to compliment the above.

    #82772
    lions2011
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    Re: Starting Age

    BJJ is by far the most dangerous on the body. I would be very careful about enrolling in BJJ. All it takes it one stupid adult or kid who is very over zealous and BAM you just tore out your ACL, Rotator cuff or broken arm.
    BJJ can cause a life time of permanent injuries if you have bad training partners who are not very bright or just don’t care about your safety. However, I may try it again next year but I am going to closely inspect the school to make sure safety is priority one.

    #82773
    lions2011
    Member

    Re: Starting Age

    Some schools seem to have little concern for safety as they teach dangerous knee locks and neck cranks early on and just have you roll with poor technique.
    You want a school that avoids Leg locks and neck cranks to all Beginners and primarly focuses on techniques and drilling rather than just rolling and rolling.
    I would put the kids in Krav

    #82774
    kevinmack
    Member

    Re: Starting Age

    Krav Maga schools in israel are filled with little kids and teenagers.

    #82775
    kevinmack
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    #82776
    don
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    Re: Starting Age

    quote lions2011:

    BJJ is by far the most dangerous on the body. I would be very careful about enrolling in BJJ. All it takes it one stupid adult or kid who is very over zealous and BAM you just tore out your ACL, Rotator cuff or broken arm.
    BJJ can cause a life time of permanent injuries if you have bad training partners who are not very bright or just don’t care about your safety. However, I may try it again next year but I am going to closely inspect the school to make sure safety is priority one.

    From Whom/What are you basing your ASSumptions? :confused: :thunbsdown:

    Maybe you’ve never heard of TBI…

    #82780
    kmman
    Member

    Re: Starting Age

    In MMA (I know it’s completely different) there are now fighters that mainly because of their young age only trained in “MMA” while most fighters have a more traditional background.

    Based on my experience, although limited, in Krav Maga, the best (at least by my opinion) people seem to have a strong background in other ie (ie a black belt in Karate).

    Now this, as it is in MMA, may be explained because most start off traditional then “find” Krav Maga. Again, I say most.

    Im wondering if the next generation will find more children starting in Krav or will Krav continue to be the next step after a more traditional art.

    #82791
    lions2011
    Member

    Re: Starting Age

    Don.. Hello. Do a simple google search of BJJ and injuries and you will find page after page of people getting there knee, shoulder ripped up or arm damaged. This is due to every school having its crazy careless people. I did bJJ 10 ys ago but only for 2 months and 2 people in the class had there arm pop due to careless students. However, some schools are way more safety concerned than others and BJJ is the best ground system on the planet.
    I think I may try it again next summer if I can find a safe school.

    #82846
    sicpuppy
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    Re: Starting Age

    quote oldKMdude:

    Personally, I don’t think Krav would be a great fit for kids. For most of the situations that kids are likely to encounter, Krav is just too much. I’d have a hard time explaining to a parent why my 5th grader broke another 5th grader’s nose and gouged out his eyes, even if the other kid started it.

    Actually, I would rather that, than a school explaining to me why *MY* kid has a broken arm, etc…

    I have myself, my wife, and my three kids (10- until tomorrow, 13, and 16) all enrolled…

    I am rather old school- I believe in personal responsibility. If you are in the wrong, then whatever happens is on you. I know it is a fading notion, but what can I say… :):

    These days, with children becoming more and more violent, and mass killings on campus, etc, I would rather my kids be able to finish the fight in less than 10 seconds.

    #82851
    oldkmdude
    Member

    Re: Starting Age

    quote ghostvet:

    I am rather old school- I believe in personal responsibility. If you are in the wrong, then whatever happens is on you. I know it is a fading notion, but what can I say… :):

    Personal responsibility goes both ways. When the other guy is wrong, it usually doesn’t give you free reign to do whatever you want. If the world worked that way, cops could just shoot anyone they caught speeding (hey, the other guy was wrong, he gets whatever’s coming to him).

    But like I said before, reasonable people can disagree. I think it’s great that you got your wife and kids in a good Krav program. I would love it if my wife would start taking classes! But for my daughter, BJJ first, then Krav when she’s older. I think as long as they’re learning something useful and they enjoy it, it’s hard to go wrong.

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