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  • #81331

    Re: Is Krav Maga Watered Down?

    BTW in Israel army recruits learn basic-level KM apparently whereas certain more elite units train intensively to a high level over a longer period of time – such as Seyaret Dudevan who go on risky undercover missions in hostile territory: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayeret_Duvdevan

    A lot of it is down to how much you put into it eg: someone going to a good civilian school & training regularly probably could end up surpassing the average basic training level of a typical Israeli army recruit fairly quickly – save for more military specific drills, like using your carbine as a blocking & striking weapon…

    #81330

    Re: Is Krav Maga Watered Down?

    quote cyberidd:

    http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/Krav.html

    The author seems to have a pretty good idea of various self defence, martial arts, and what he calls “fighting” and “combat” systems.

    I’ve read some articles on that site before & some of his writings about violence, victims, psychology of human predators etc are quite interesting and make a lot of sense.

    When it comes to this article on KM however, its hard to take seriously as its clear the writer does not appear to grasp KM and has very little exposure to actual KM training, literature, video etc.

    As a previous poster mentioned, some of the points are good (such as the importance of the trainer and individual differences in the trainee) but some miss the mark – the general air of & lack of understanding KM in the writing serve to deflate the authority of the entire piece IMO.

    Hard to take seriously.

    #81327

    Re: Questions from someone who is interested in taking Krav Maga?

    Depends on the trainer/group/situation – some you can show up & do a test lesson on the spot, some have intake/orientation nights, some have ‘waves’ of new students who rotate in at certain intervals.

    When I 1st had a look at KM I ‘audited’ a session watching from the sidelines & it looked like the most crazy, psychotic thing I’d every seen. Not to mention the fact that about 1/3 of the group got injured in some way that night. 🙂

    The 1st couple of months I consistently thought I might die and / or barf up a lung – until my fitness level got built up.

    Have fun & enjoy! 🙂

    #81319

    Re: KMWW testing

    quote paul:

    just let the instructor know about your injury…. dont worry, they will find some other way to torture you!!

    Yes, I’ve seen IKMF tests where people were assigned some other torture than the rest due to a pre existing injury or some condition.
    Also have seen people given short breaks for asthma flareups, knockdowns, injury, barfing up a lung etc..

    Fighting spirit & not giving up counts in an exam! Occasionally I have seen people who might have had cause to fail on some issues with techniques pass due to displaying incredible fighting spirit & heart.

    If pushups are a problem then do situps or something else,
    the point is not so much the pushup itself but not giving up, fighting through tiredness, determination etc..

    Have fun!

    #81316

    Re: Muscle Recovery

    A decent sleep of 7-8 hrs – this is when your body goes to work repairing & growing tissue, releasing hormones like HGH – human growth hormone.

    Your immune system also ramps up while asleep.

    Some feel protein intake eg: shake, milk, protein bar etc shortly (eg1/2 an hr) after a workout helps recovery.

    I tend to save dinner, or the bulk of it for after KM training (for obvious reasons) so get some protein intake that way..

    HGH is synthesized and secreted from the anterior pituitary gland in a pulsatile manner throughout the day; surges of secretion occur at 3- to 5-hour intervals.[2] The plasma concentration of GH during these peaks may range from 5 to even 45 ng/mL.[18] The largest and most predictable of these GH peaks occurs about an hour after onset of sleep.[19] Otherwise there is wide variation between days and individuals. Nearly fifty percent of HGH secretion occurs during the third and fourth REM sleep stages.[20] Between the peaks, basal GH levels are low, usually less than 5 ng/mL for most of the day and night.[19] Additional analysis of the pulsatile profile of GH described in all cases less than 1 ng/ml for basal levels while maximum peaks were situated around 10-20 ng/mL.[21][22]
    A number of factors are known to affect HGH secretion, such as age, gender, diet, exercise, stress, and other hormones.[2] Young adolescents secrete HGH at the rate of about 700 μg/day, while healthy adults secrete HGH at the rate of about 400 μg/day.[23]

    #80401

    Re: Krav survival stories

    Joel: A knife attack is a bad situation – no way to sugar coat it. KM is no guarantee but at least it gives you a far better chance than nothing. You may get cut, hurt but you have skills to maybe deal with the problem, minimize the damage & get away.. I don’t think there’s any better system than KM when it comes to dealing with all manner of knife threats & attacks. Train.

    #80400

    Re: Krav survival stories

    quote Joel:

    I have just started training Krav maga and I was today trying to google some real life survival stories, but couldnt find any.

    All I found was this topic with real life knight attacks caught on camera:
    http://kravmagaalliance.org/index.php?/forums/viewthread/12/

    I hope someone could find atleast one video of someone actualy doing a proper self defence move to survive that kind of knife attacks.
    Even a news story would be nice to hear. 🙂
    (I dont think that krav maga isnt effective, I just wish I could find some evidence that people can survive knife attacks in real life.)

    Fwiw it was I who compiled that list originally & posted it here on this forum:

    https://kravmaga.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4372&highlight=knife

    I didn’t find any CCTV ‘real life’ KM knife defense videos yet. I have read some anecdotes from a few US Law enforcement officers who said they were ‘saved’ from knife attacks instinctively using basic KM blocks after very short term training eg: a weekend or afternoon type KM seminar.

    I regularly hear 1st hand feedback from people successfully using KM to their advantage in real life – LEO’s, Security personnel, bouncers, prison workers, those who work with ‘difficult customers’ & others.

    The techniques work. They are tested, tried & performed in real life.

    With myself , similar to what Steve Tuna mentions, I had a few tense situations defuse because the other party detected ‘something’..the KM vibe.

    #80398

    Re: Aggro guy gets the MA knockdown

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2672670/Hero-who-beat-up-yob-on-video-is-revealed-as-Gulf-War-veteran-with-two-black-belts.html

    THE yob seen on The Sun’s website being floored by an ex-soldier is threatening to sue us – for humiliating him.

    Les Andrews, 23, got on to his solicitor after more than 200,000 readers saw him belted by Jason Smith. The thug rang us and said: “I’m going to sue. I’ve got everyone staring at me because of this.

    “He should be apologising to me. What have I got to apologise for ? I got arrested for it at the time and I got a fine. Now I feel all depressed.”

    But Gulf War veteran Jason, 35, told how his life had been made hell by yobs like Andrews in St Helens, Merseyside.

    After complaining to police FIFTY times in a year, the 15st karate and jiu-jitsu black belt snapped when Andrews swore and pushed him on his doorstep.

    Yesterday Jason said: “These thugs repeatedly abused me and my family and damaged our property. I’ve never gone out looking for trouble but think you’ve got to be able to defend yourself.” He has now moved away from the estate with daughter Boudiccia, 22 months, and wife Rebecca, 23.

    Yesterday the father of Andrews – who was put under curfew for the public order offence – said his son had also moved away. Les Snr said: “He’s getting his life back on track.”

    Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage…#ixzz0TQkCc7NZ

    #80397

    Re: Concealed weapons – things not always what they seem

    The cleavers are some crazy shizz, I certainly didn’t expect those to emerge.

    Those ‘chavs’ as they’re known in the UK – not exactly renowned for their brain power.

    Indeed – a self-inflicted cleaver accident reducing chances for offspring probably a good thing.

    Chav (pronounced /ˈtʃÊv/ (CHAV)) is a term applied to certain young people in the United Kingdom. The stereotypical “chav”—known also as a charver in Yorkshire and North East England[1]—is an aggressive teenager, typically unemployed or of white working class background,[2] who repeatedly engages in anti-social behaviour,[2] such as street drinking, drug abuse and rowdiness, or other forms of juvenile delinquency.

    #80373

    Re: Long knife/sword defense techniques

    Check out these youths pulling concealed meat cleavers from their pants at 00:56 in the vid:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqyU2z-FJr8

    #80212

    Re: Long knife/sword defense techniques

    Footage of the European poker tournament robbery this weekend (on live TV!) – in the images you can see at least one of the robbers wielded a machete.
    The take was supposedly EUR 800,000

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biLQ12VPv9Q
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu2e7yiXXBY

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8553943.stm

    Armed robbers have stormed a luxury hotel in central Berlin where a poker tournament was taking place, German police say.

    One report said the gang – armed with assault rifles and hand grenades – made off with the tournament jackpot of 800,000 euros ($1.1m; £726,000).

    Several people were injured in the ensuing panic, although none of them seriously.
    About 1,000 poker players are taking part in the five-day tournament.

    “Several masked, armed individuals entered the Grand Hyatt Hotel and fled with a haul of money,” police spokeswoman Heidi Vogt said.

    She declined to say how much had been taken but Berlin’s Tageszeitung newspaper reported on its website that the gang had taken 800,000 euros.

    #80185

    Re: Help Needed for a Krav Promo

    Nice work – looks very professional with the edits & various angles. Congrats!

    Gotta love the use of classical music in the soundtrack! :):

    #80184

    Re: what to do on the plane?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8547329.stm

    Boeing 747 survives simulated ‘Flight 253’ bomb blast

    A test explosion on a Boeing 747 has shown that a US Christmas Day flight would have landed safely even if a bomb on board was detonated successfully.

    The plane’s fuselage did not break in the controlled blast, which used the same explosives that were on Flight 253 from Amsterdam to Detroit.

    However experts said it showed the suspected bomber and the passenger next to him would have been killed.

    Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, 23, has denied attempting to murder 289 people.

    The controlled experiment was carried out for the BBC Two documentary How safe are our Skies? Detroit Flight 253.


    It would have been quite horrific – obviously the blast itself would cause eardrum rupture

    Dr John Wyatt, international terrorism and explosives expert

    Dr John Wyatt, an international terrorism and explosives adviser to the UN, replicated the conditions on board the Detroit flight on a decommissioned Boeing 747 at an aircraft graveyard in Gloucestershire, England.

    The same amount of the explosive pentaerythritol (or PETN) allegedly carried by Mr Abdulmutallab was placed to mirror the location where he was sitting on the plane.

    Captain J Joseph, an air accident investigator, and Dr Wyatt both concluded that the quantity of explosive used was nowhere near enough needed to rupture the skin of a passenger plane.

    Dr Wyatt said: “If it was a more rigid material then we might have seen a crack or breakthrough but this is actually quite a flexible material.

    “I was extremely impressed by the aircraft structure.
    “It can sustain quite a hefty thump.”

    Captain Joseph said: “We noticed the aircraft had lost some rivets but no flight controls were compromised and certainly no fuel tanks were breached.

    “I’m very confident that the flight crew could have taken this aeroplane without any incident at all and get it on the ground safely.”
    Body parts

    However, the experts said that the death of the suspected bomber and the passenger sitting next to him would have been traumatic for passengers.

    After seeing… how well the aircraft maintained its structural integrity, and obviously the pilot’s capacity to fly the aircraft, it should give them (passengers) a great deal of confidence

    Captain J Joseph, air accident investigator

    “It would have been quite horrific. Obviously the blast itself would cause eardrum rupture,” said Dr Wyatt.

    Captain Joseph said the noise and the smoke would have been awful, “not to mention the parts of the bodies that were disintegrated as part of the explosion”.

    But Captain Joseph said the experiment could help to put air travellers at ease: “I think this should be a confidence-builder for passengers.

    “After seeing… how well the aircraft maintained its structural integrity, and obviously the pilot’s capacity to fly the aircraft, it should give them a great deal of confidence.”

    For security reasons, they could not go into specific details of blast damage inside the cabin of the test Boeing 747.

    Kip Hawley, the former head of the US Transportation Security Administration (TSA) said: “We can be sure that al Qaeda and others have taken lessons from their failed attempt and this program allows the public to be privy to some of those lessons.

    “An active and engaged public can not only be a layer of security but can be more effective in demanding the kind of security that will work.

    “The explosives analysis done by Dr John Wyatt gave a realistic picture of the effects of a carry-on bomb roughly similar to the one used on Christmas Day.

    “The point that today’s airframes are more resilient than many imagine is a critical point.

    “Governments do very sophisticated testing similar to what Dr Wyatt demonstrated and those results inform security measures you see in airports today.

    “Specifically, it was that kind of testing that led to the decision to allow 100ml of any liquid, carried in a sealed one-quart baggie, to be brought through security.”

    Dr Wyatt’s test results are to be shared with governments and aviation security experts around the world.

    FLIGHT 253
    Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, a Nigerian, is accused of trying to blow up the plane with a device hidden in his underwear
    Officials say he planned to detonate it using a syringe filled with chemicals
    Instead he caused a fire and was overpowered by passengers
    He faces life imprisonment if convicted
    Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula says it was responsible for the failed attack

    #80128

    Re: Test time length

    Love these kind of stories – hope for the KM grey hair contingent..

    As for the 5 minute level test? That ain’t right…
    The instructor would be unfair the students with that IMO.

    #80019

    Re: Quick question – timeline for belts/levels

    Absolutely – passing is not a ‘given’ as people do fail, though instructors don’t usually select people for testing who are guaranteed to crash n burn..

    KM level tests are kind of an ordeal where do you do feel you earned it.

    When you test for a level you also have to cover the preceding levels as well so your test gets longer and longer the further you go.. hours..

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