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Re: Your held behind while he threatens person in front
quote jjbklb:Last nights show Nakita showed a situation that could easily happen in real-life.You are held from behind by perps left hand draped in front of you & over your left shoulder.Your being used as a shield while he holds his gun AT ARMS LENGTH pointing at someone in front of you to keep them from advancing.
You’re not being directly threatened.It’s the person in front of you.The gun,being at arms length is not easy for you to grab,especially with the perps left arm holding you against him.
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Best response??
If they’re behind you, seems like their hand shouldn’t be too far in front of you since your body is between their body and hand. If their arm is over your shoulder and the elbow is extended, it seems like they’re giving you a pump handle armbar, and the motion of turning the palm upward could also be used to redirect the line of fire. From there, you can snap the arm down as hard as possible, using your shoulder as a fulcrum to hyperextend the elbow, and yanking the weapon out of their hand. Then you could strike your way out and create space, aim and yell verbal commands. Of course, the larger discussion is when you should comply and when you should resist.
Re: size doesn’t matter
quote cmetalman:CLKMAK,I’ve never done any martial arts prior to Krav and I didn’t start Krav until I was forty. When would a child be old enough to learn an art without “street testing” techniques on his friends and injuring someone?Well, with judo at least the techniques that are focused on are ones that can be applied in a sportive setting, ie they wouldn’t be learning how to hit someone in the throat, knee the groin, gouge an eye etc. Judo at junior levels also restricts dangerous techniques that are allowed in sport judo like arm bars and chokes (because it’s probably a bad idea for developing kids to be choked or have their joints tested). However this can be deceptive, because judo techniques can be dangerous off the mat against someone who doesn’t know how to fall. Like any martial art the kid will have to be taught that they can’t go around hurting people with what they learn, and if they don’t understand that then they probably shouldn’t be studying the fighting arts. Elements of judo are safe for when kids start roughhousing, like kids will do. For example, they’ll learn how to resist someone trying to put them on the ground or how to get out from someone trying to pin them down. I wouldn’t really go lower than 7 or 8 years old as a starting point unless they’re super interested, motivated and talented. Sure you can start younger, but I’ve taught kung fu to kids and most of them aren’t really learning much at a younger age. At that age, I think it’s more important to get lots of fun exercise time to work out spatial abilities, coordination etc. There are good kids programs for young kids at some martial arts schools, but they don’t really develop anything martial; they’re just fun kid games that may help their cognition later on.
Re: size doesn’t matter
quote cmetalman:Don, that “little” kid is good, he’d beat the cr@p out of my knees. My grandson is almost three and I’ve been wondering if and when I should put him into some kind of “martial art” school. My daughter wouldn’t be able to afford it so it would be on my $.If you’re looking for an affordable martial art that will teach techniques that are useful on the playground and will engage the kid and teach good sportsmanship, I would recommend looking into judo.
Re: Weird Punching Techniques
Make sure you don’t accidentally judi chop yer leg when yer kung fu kickin.
Re: Vibram Five Fingers
There was a few guys wearing them at the last Dog Brothers gathering, and they said they really like training in them. Footwork is very important in the weapon arts and that’s why they like them. On the other hand, my old kung fu sifu got some and he didn’t like them.
Re: Weird Punching Techniques
That first weird one is found in some karate styles; I think it’s called age tsuki. Carl Cestari taught it in his bareknuckle boxing videos. I think it’s the first strike in this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM0iVTyvrUY
The guy’s also teaching the karate version of a circular punch. Actually most everything this guy teaches looks like karate. I’m not sure why he calls it krav maga.Re: Anyone else lose their avatar?
ooh, mine’s gone too. Now how will people know that one time I kicked a guy?
Re: I need cardio help.
I’m a big advocate of the jumprope. It’ll build your cardio and develop lightness on the feet.
Re: Does Krav Need The Startle Flinch?
2 points:
1. Krav maga works off of a natural flinch response more than any traditional martial art I’ve ever seem.
2. I’ve checked out a lot of different martial arts schools, and lots of them think they study the best style and can give you reasons why. Mostly, these statements come from ignorance/inexperience, but sometimes they’re right, too.Re: I uploaded some martial arts videos
quote seeq_QC:yeah..most of the concepts aren’t directly krav related, but I’m definitely thinking about adding a few components to the ol toolbox – earslap, shinshots and few other points.I should note that my krav maga experience is 2 seminars, so there’s not a huge krav maga influence on what I do. Actually its kind of weird that I post here.
Re: Nose or jaw?
I used to train with a guy who could counter jabs by leaning back on his back leg and throwing a front leg roundhouse kick to the head. I remember getting hit in the jaw by one and when I opened my eyes, there was a circle of people standing around me. Even though it was a quick front leg kick without full power, it was able to drop me. The thing was that it didn’t hurt, but I definitely didn’t get to decide to fall to the ground. That’s why I recommend the jaw- if you get hit in the nose, you can fight through the pain, but a solid jaw strike does not drop people simply because it hurts.
Re: I uploaded some martial arts videos
quote seeq_QC:Thanks for the uploads! It actually got me thinking about a few things…Ah, somebody actually watched them! My idea was to show certain things I came across while teaching kung fu that I never taught, because we had a set curriculum.
Re: Nose or jaw?
The jaw- it’s easier to aim for, can be hit at many angles and has caused countless knockouts. Also even though it’s a bone, it’s not super likely to break your hand, because there’s some give there. In fact, there’s an old karate training device that’s like an iron mask with a rubber ball behind its jaw (which can move), and it teaches to aim for the jaw/chin. The nose is okay too, but isn’t an automatic fight ender. A guy I know had some other guy punch him right in the nose and broke it, and when he felt a bunch of blood flowing down his face, he took a big mouthful of it and spit it in the punchers’ face before tackling him and beating him.
Re: Cross training in Kung Fu
I have several years (9) of experience with choy li fut kung fu, and honestly if you were just interested in self defense/fighting, Iíd recommend krav maga. Kung fu has a tendency towards certain things that I dislike:
1. Focus on forms- most (but not all) kung fu schools will teach you form after form, but a form is supposed to be like an encyclopedia of movement, not a training method and definitely not a competition method. Long sequences of predetermined menacing movements performed by yourself doesnít prepare you to deal with usually short, unchoreographed violence.
2. Exaggeration of movement- a number of styles (choy li fut, hung gar etc) teach exaggerated versions of fighting concepts. For example, itís a good idea to keep your knees bent, but theyíll teach you to bend your knees as much as possible and get as low as possible to the ground. This element of footwork is something that Iíve been reteaching myself in favor of mobility.
3. Tradition as king- a lot of kung fu people will not crosstrain because of old stylistic reasons, and because of this they often think that their way is the best and others are wrong. This is a sure way to limit your learning, and since you already do krav maga I would avoid any places like this.If you find a good kung fu place, definitely consider it, but itís an art with little consistency or quality control so you can only judge it on a school by school basis. If you like it and you find it challenging and rewarding, stick with it for those reasons (thatís why I do systema now)
