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  • #88427
    kirsten
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    Re: Do Men and Women Train Together at Your School????

    Speaking from a LE perspective, with the number of women committing violent acts it would be short sighted to not train with a woman. We are putting more and more female targets on the shooting range instead of the traditionally male “offender” looking targets. An active shooter, a terrorist, or any suspect for that matter should be a non-gender specific model. Male (and female) officers need to get used to the idea that they may need to use force against a female. Same goes for physical self-defense training… Equality is not just on the rise in society, but in the criminal population as well.

    #83787
    kirsten
    Moderator

    Re: Defense against hair grabs/pulls

    Basics need to be covered first, as well as working on instinctive techniques. We can’t put everything “sooner” in the system. Something has to come first and the idea of spinning and bursting with your head down or back is suprisingly difficult for most early on in the system. Just choke from behind is mind blowing, let alone a hair pull defense. Both are relatively simple, but when you are just starting keep in mind we have to teach you to walk before you have you run.

    #83786
    kirsten
    Moderator

    Re: "Rhino" Defense

    Sounds like shelling. I love it… Leaves the body wide open. Do it. Do it lots… But I don’t teach my students to do it unles its one hand and as a flinch/ last minute response. No punching to the sternum, just the soft targets like the face and throat as the immediate counter. But it leaves your body wide open and in the event they have an edged weapon that you didn’t see (which as you all know, you most likely won’t) then it really can be problematic. That is why is our LEAST favorite defense in the Bas Rutten System and at my own KM training centers.

    #83785
    kirsten
    Moderator

    Re: Fist Hardening.

    I hit stuff. Fist gets harder. I have a method for periodic work without my gear. I no longer train on specific conditioning for my fist and hand on broken bricks like I did when I was younger. It’s just not needed to that degree anymore. However any instructor that says learning to punch properly alone will keep you from breaking your fist is poorly informed. This advice could lead you to either a substantial injury and/or a failure in training or ability to survive a deadly encounter.

    Even Bas Rutten broke his hand in Pancras on a palm strike… And he trained with no protection because of the no-glove rule.

    The more you condition yourself and work in gradual steps away from heavy training gear and onto mitts, pads, lighter gloves, and heavy bags on an occasion, the better to can help prevent an injury… but a fight is a rapidly evolving and dynamic situation. There are NO guarantees.

    #83374
    kirsten
    Moderator

    Re: Well, it ain’t Krav Maga!

    This is why I tend to not be on this forum much anymore…

    Look at what I wrote:

    “Lastly sounds like he was using a 3 section staff. Not really practical for today’s conceal carry…”

    Meaning, not practical for concealment and carry… Not a lot of folks want to walk down the street carrying a 3 section staff for self-defense.

    Any weapon can be useful for self-defense. However choosing to carry a 3 section staff would not be practical from where I stand, at least in a life outside of the World of Warcraft.

    #83370
    kirsten
    Moderator

    Re: Well, it ain’t Krav Maga!

    Well, I am not a Karate person, but I can say ALL systems these days seem to have issues with people achieving rank… where there is money, there is politics… No martial art or system is immune.

    The uniforms for traditional styles have no real significance anymore… Its often just a matter of what suits that schools instructors. Not everyone wants to wear white pj’s everyday.

    Lastly sounds like he was using a 3 section staff. Not really practical for today’s conceal carry… but whatever floats their boat. Some people enjoy the traditional martial arts for the history and tenants, weapons training, and culture. But from a self-defense perspective, yeah… pretty useless. But so are a great many reality based self defense instructors or students. It isn’t the system or style that matters any more than the person doing it. You can have the BEST system and the WORST instructor or you can have the BEST instructor and the WORST system… Meh… I would rather have the BEST instructor in the WORST system because self-defense is more than technique- it’s mindset.

    I would however encourage anyone to get out of the thought that there is only one system or style and to dedicate some time in cross training. But try to choose something that will enhance your current training, not work against it.

    #83361
    kirsten
    Moderator

    Re: Anybody in Bas Fight club class???

    I should add, that this past year we have been working very hard at Bas Rutten Systems to get more seminar based training to people. We have been sending Bas, Oneness Fish, Lee Mein, and myself out to more locations for a variety of seminars. Our 2012 calendar is filling up fast with even more dates, so maybe we can get to you in the coming year. 🙂

    #83360
    kirsten
    Moderator

    Re: Anybody in Bas Fight club class???

    Awe, thanks CJ… Checks in the mail brother! 🙂

    I started out in traditional martial arts in 1991 but made the switch to Krav Maga in 2000, a year after opening my first training center. I am fully certified as a civilian Krav Maga and Krav Maga Force Training instructor, but my focus has been mostly on the force training side. In 2004 I started getting addicted to Bas… and in 2009 I began working with Bas Rutten Systems as an instructor teaching the Bas Rutten Systems “Fight Club” program.

    Krav Maga Portland is a Bas Rutten Systems “Fight Club” Level 1 and now Level 2 certified training location. So if you get back there, they will have some great take-downs, defenses, clinch work and ground striking that will most likely be new for you.

    #83309
    kirsten
    Moderator

    Re: Anybody in Bas Fight club class???

    Sorry, I haven’t been on the forums much since I opened up my third training center so I missed this. Your instructor would be the obvious choice to ask this question of, but I hope this helps to at least maybe frame some more specific questions of your instructor regarding their classes. To summarize each class it would look a bit like the following:

    Intro To Striking: Is the jumping off point where you reinforce the stance (same as KM stance), movement, kicks, knees, punches, elbows, etc. as well as shadowboxing, introduction to the MMA Workouts to enhance muscle memory, how to use the focus mitts and thai pads. Additionally this class starts to build on the “loading concept” of utilizing the power gained from trunk rotation in an alternating manner. We begin building students into the idea of contact through the padwork to prepare them both physically and mentally for sparring.

    Fight Club 1: Is where we build on the concepts in the Intro to Striking class and add in additional advanced combinations, defenses and counters, traditional thai clinch, Bas’ clinch and defenses. Here we begin adding in the idea of changing levels and we introduce the student to our glove2glove concept to further the concept of gradual acceptance to contact. We also start with our first level of sparring: Body Only Punches, Leg Kicks Only, Body/Leg Only, and Combined with No Head Contact.

    Fight Club 2: In Fight Club 2 we continue the method of building on the previous levels material and add in striking from the mount, side mount, guard, knee on belly, etc. Because you’re striking needs to change slightly depending on these positions and how you can gain power by making small adjustments. We add in the elbow combinations to the striking. We also work on what we believe has been an underserved part of many sparring curricula which is the transition from standing to ground. We work basic takedowns and defenses, keeping it practical and easy to utilize. We build on our sparring methods in Level 1 by allowing for light contact to the head.

    Fight Club 3: Keeping with the building concept we now tie together the previous programs with some dynamic combinations that challenge not only your cardio in a way only Bas Rutten can do, but your ability to make the striking all “flow” (without thinking about which hand to use, which foot to use). Advanced drills and combinations are added to further push the muscle memory. Sparring is now taken to a new level with the integration of the takedowns/defenses the students have been training on and fighting on the ground.

    Our belief is the less you think about what is needed to do in sparring or fighting, the better- just like in Krav Maga. The problem is, typically we are all “jumped” into sparring and students get hurt and quit. The Fight Club gives you the tools, training and ability to form a game plan so you can begin to work the actual sparring and not stumble through it just getting your butt kicked. For those not used to contact, we also recognize that it is imperative we build this just as carefully as we do mindset. Throughout the training we provide the student with lectures on building your mindset, recognizing holes in an attack, stress management and more. We want you prepared to build your sparring so when in a fight with no rules, you can better handle the stress both physically and emotionally.

    Hope that helps.

    #83308
    kirsten
    Moderator

    Re: "Your training might have saved my life…"

    Yes, it was actually a single-wing takedown. Its a LEO only technique and you will hopefully never see it on video or in a book.

    #83307
    kirsten
    Moderator

    Re: Weapons on Dead vs. Live side ??

    Your instructor, Lynn is a KMWW Black Belt, Police Officer and former SWAT Sgt. Just ask him for clarification. He is more than able to help you understand this and incorporate our Bas Rutten Systems movement drills and pivots into it. It will help you work on taking advantage of the Live/Dead side in an attacker and minimize your own risk by not allowing your Dead side to be exploited.

    #81598
    kirsten
    Moderator

    Re: anybody taking Bas MMA system??

    Yeah I think their focus is the Fight Club program, but if your interested in learning more about training in or doing seminars for the ground- we will have some in our new location in Salem. You can find us on facebook via Krav Maga Oregon: Salem to get info on seminars and events. http://www.facebook.com/KravMagaOregonSalem

    I will see Mark and Lynn this next weekend for the Bas Rutten systems Level 2 Fight Club course. Looking forward to it! Oneness is doing a special clinic for the instructors on “Breaking the Rubber Guard”… going to be awesome. Should call it “Wrecking the Rubber Guard”, lol.

    #81480
    kirsten
    Moderator

    Re: anybody taking Bas MMA system??

    Sounds like you had a bad run in with your last training and are very cautious. I would recommend going in and talking to an instructor, watching a class and speaking to students. Just to get a feel…

    Its a series of courses just like Krav Maga, however you really have to have a level of understanding to undertake the certification with ground technique given all the reason you stated, it gets complicated. I have observed that only people that are interested in grappling and submissions tend to undertake the certification process. It can be like a chess match, and not everyone has a head for chess.

    However if you know anything about Bas, he gives nobody anything. Our failure rate for just the stand up Fight Club program (the pre-req. for the MMA System) is over 30%. He has had black belts in other systems bow out of testing for fear of failure. Other black belts have actually asked for a belt instead of testing… he never gives in.

    These instructors are not wearing the name of the training like “Tae Kwon Do” or “Karate”, or even “Krav Maga”- but they are wearing his personal name when they leave. He will NOT put his name on any instructor he does not feel confident in teaching his material.

    The MMA System test alone is extensive, there is no room for error, a teaching test is required, PLUS you must undergo a huge Q&A with Bas and the System Senior Lead Instructors: Oneness Fish and/or Lee Mein. Additionally we are a very small program with no plans for hundreds of schools. Because of this, we are able to closely track instructors and ensure they are staying up on their annual certification requirements.

    Hope you find a good place to train. You may also want to invest in the Bas Rutten Big DVD’s of Combat. So you can maybe train on your own with a good partner and at a rate that is comfortable to you.

    #81474
    kirsten
    Moderator

    Re: Keeping in Shape when no longer taking Krav classes

    Pick up a copy of Bas’ MMA Workouts. You can use them shadowboxing, with a partner or on a heavy bag. Plus you can chose from different 4 cd’s, each with 2 minute or 3 minute rounds. The include a boxing, thai boxing, all around fight and an all around workout. They will keep you in fighting shape!

    You can pick up a set at http://www.basruttensystems.com in the pro-shop.

    #81473
    kirsten
    Moderator

    Re: anybody taking Bas MMA system??

    Yes, has all of that in it… And MANY takedowns. We use sparring, but for beginners we start with the basics. Neck cranks are not allowed in open grappling for beginners, only slow practice to learn how to apply.

    We use a LOT of drills and drill in a more open grappling format. Can’t break it all down, as we work to protect exactly HOW we deliver our method of instruction. If you are looking to augment your Krav Maga training, stop by Bas Rutten’s Elite MMA in Westlake Village and talk to them about starting some ground training.

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