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  • #28282
    razman
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    I’ve got plenty of free-time at the moment 😀
    and I want to make the most of It by taking not only Krav Maga but maybe a few other marital arts as well (e.x Kickboxing or Brazilian Jujitsu).

    No-Rules fighting: Krav Maga

    Ground Fighting:?

    Weapons Fighting:?

    Standing fighting(with rules) : ?

    others:? (e.x Free Running)

    Can anyone give their suggustions as to what to to fill the other fighting groups that have not been filled yet?

    #35126
    clfmak
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    If you’re interested in learning on your own, check out the book Attack Proof- its about learning how to fight with natural, random motions with relaxed power. Its full of good supplementary exercises for any martial art. Aside from that, I’d recommend the following:
    Groundfighting: I’m partial to judo myself, but BJJ is a good choice for developing the basics to a phenomenal degree. Also, Attack Proof has a bunch of unique groundfighting principles focused on anti-grappling techniques and ground mobility.
    Standing fighting: Krav pretty much has all of the good stand up stuff that any popular stand up style has (muay thai, kyokushin kai). Seems a bit redundant to start training in another stand up sportfighting style. BUT if you’re interested in one, look into San Shou- there’s a lot of standing takedowns that are not utilized in other styles.
    Weapons fighting: there’s a couple of weapon fighting programs that are very good on video. Cold Steel has two sets: the Warrior’s Edge series and Stun, Stagger and Stop. The first is all about knife fighting in the classical sense (two guys with fighting knives squared off in a fight) but still applies to other kinds of fighting. The second is about fighting with a cane. Both videos are great stuff. Other notable videos are anything by James Keating (has videos on all kinds of exotic and practical weapons- bandana, tomahawk, belt, whip, knife, push dagger) and the Canemaster series, but I don’t know much about the last one.

    Other: ever think of internal martial arts? Tai chi and bagua can be very good martial arts (zingyi also, I’ve heard).

    Now, having said all that, you must have a collosal amount of time on your hands to practice any more than two. Taking too much can make you just mediocre at all of them, rather than good at one.

    #35130
    la-revancha
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    If you’re in High School or college (or uni-which is apparantly not the same as college in the UK), you may want to look into training with the wrestling program. It may come to little or no charge and should teach you a great deal about takedowns and balance. Many schools also offer club judo or BJJ programs, which likely cost substantially less than off-campus organizations. Aside from campus-related resources, I agree with CLF.

    Furthermore, do you have a previous history in other MAs or competition systems? Finally, keep in mind any prior injuries you have acquired over the years. Those may be an issue when starting a foreign training program which you plan to compound with Krav and whatever else you’re doing.

    Listen to your body.

    #35132
    razman
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    La Revancha)

    I am very fit since I go to the Gym 6 days a week (e.x one day weights, one day treadmall & bike), but the only marital arts that I did was a rip-off! instead of Karate I got something like a mix of slow tai-chi, yoga and Stalin worship 😯 with no Progression system (Belts) at all. 👿

    Thankfully I’ve had very minor injuries.

    CLFMak)

    I liked to do Krav Maga and BJJ, from then on it’s a toss-up between Kickboxing (or something just as brutal) or something where the focus is on balance, though in my free-time I’m looking into something called Free-running. http://www.urbanfreeflow.com/
    😈 Pics of free-running http://www.urbanfreeflow.com/UrbanFreeFlow/urbangraffiti/francetrip/index.htm
    😈 Video of Free-running http://www.toorock.net/images/Parkour/uf_movies/urban_freeflow_parkour_guerillas.wmv

    #35137
    wim
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    Re:

    quote \”Razman\:

    CLFMak)

    I liked to do Krav Maga and BJJ, from then on it’s a toss-up between Kickboxing (or something just as brutal) or something where the focus is on balance, though in my free-time I’m looking into something called Free-running. http://www.urbanfreeflow.com/
    😈 Pics of free-running http://www.urbanfreeflow.com/UrbanFreeFlow/urbangraffiti/francetrip/index.htm
    😈 Video of Free-running http://www.toorock.net/images/Parkour/uf_movies/urban_freeflow_parkour_guerillas.wmv

    I think you’ll be able to upgrade to very major injuries if you start \”free-running\”.

    #35139
    keeiii
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    I figure you must be 18 to 30 yrs old. This is what I suggest. Train in Krav Maga, as much as you can. Your workouts to me sound like you do plenty. Unless you are training for a fight, or someone just beat you up. Relax a little. Learn something new. Pottery, skydiving, scuba, skiing, rock climbing or maybe learning to cook. Food is always a good thing. There must be other things in your head. Itís a big world out there with many things to offer. Iíve seen a lot people come and go in martial arts. Life is a trip. Enjoy the ride

    #35151
    razman
    Member

    wim)

    \”I think you’ll be able to upgrade to very major injuries if you start \”free-running\”.\”

    😆 If I do decide take it up. 😉

    keeiii)

    While I am thinking of taking up Krav Maga (and maybe two other Martial Arts), I’m not thinking of abusing it at all. It’s just that here in the UK especially in London (where I currently live), we are at the mercy of Muslim Gangs (bear in mind that I myself am racially arab before anyone starts throwning the \”Racist\” tag like Confetti at me) and the Police are not letting people defend themselves with Guns (only criminals are \”unofficially\” allowed that luxury). Even defending ourselves without Guns or other Weapons \”Violates their Human Rights and Culture\”, within a year or two I hope to be out of the UK by then and in the meantime I’ve got all the time in the world to take up martial arts to give me aleast some security till I immigrate.

    I’ve never been one to tolerate intolerance. 😡

    #35158
    wim
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    Wow, I never realized the UK had real gang problems. I think I’d be training as hard as possible too!

    I think Krav has a great standup game (although a very incremental training program, so it might take a while before you’re well rounded), good defenses against modern weapons, and a logical ground game (i.e. get the heck back up, quick!). Personally, if I wanted to augment it, I’d be doing BJJ or some type of wrestling and if I really had to do something more than that, maybe FMA/Kali for the stick and knife fighting and hand speed.

    #35169
    la-revancha
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    Before we get anymore ahead of ourselves, find out what types of programs are offered at the Krav locales in your area. Most often, you will find that Krav instructors split their time or gym space with classes in TMAs, BJJ, thaiboxing, etc. You may be able to find all you need under the same roof. And of course, participate or observe a trial class before making any long-term decision.

    If the school you decide upon teach other stand up or ground fighting styles, make sure they coincide with your goals or your situation at the time (i.e, geographical, financial, intensity level).

    Keep us posted about what you find.

    #35178
    clfmak
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    I just started a little hobby that you might want to look into- balisong manipulation. I recently got a balisong trainer, and have been on balisongxtreme.com trying to pick up techniques. I do a lot of long walks, and have been trying to multitask at the same time (For instance, I started playing a tiny accordion- lethal improvised weapon) and have started to play with the trainer when I’m in areas with no one watching me- its kind of suspicious. Check out the site.
    About adding martial arts, it seems between BJJ and krav, you have it all covered, as far as going into kickboxing or grappling. I would recommend some kind of soft work- systema, tai chi, etc.
    Freerunning has always been interesting to me. Way before I’d ever heard about it, I was finding new and better ways to jump over obstacles, climb fences, trees, walls, etc, breakfalls and rolls after far falls, and good stuff like that. Then I saw a Nike commercial that really showed me up. I still climb trees as an obscure training method- teaches creative thought in a somewhat random context, body positioning, and balance, not to mention the physical exercise, especially for the forearms. Tree climbing is a part of traditional kun tao.

    #35185
    razman
    Member

    wim)

    It’s only one part of even bigger problems in Europe (I and many others around the world are beginning to call Europe \”Eurabia\”) involving Muslim gangs (Terrorists for a better word).

    Wim, La Revancha & CLFMak)

    I’am currently looking into the local Krav Maga in my area and am researching into the other martial arts you have mention ( though I’m not sure about the spiritual training), Kuntao looks like something I might add to Krav & BJJ and FMA/Kali I’d have to look into more.

    Anyway thanks for the info people 😀

    #35203
    angryangel
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    As I have mentioned in another thread it is just as important to look at how you will train in the system as the sytem itself.

    For example, will you be reverse punching and \”kiiiaaaaing\” up and down the floor all class, or spending lots of time learning katas, forms, bowing, or learning to pronounce foreign names for moves and counting backwards, listening intently to the sifu/ sensei’s philosphies on life?

    This may be your thing, to take the time to learn a system in the context of appreciating and absorbing some of the cultural and traditional elements.

    Or will you be spending this time learning realistic techniques and applying them in realistic scenerious. Is there pad work, contact, some sort of ground componant? All these things are important if you are looking at some that is quick and nasty.

    I recommend bjj (the competitive element can be quite social and healthy) boxing, or muay thai. But then I am not much for the internal arts, though it is great for those that are into it. Don’t forget to take advantage of free lessons, try both approaches, ask lots of questions and get a real taste of how they train along with what they train.

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