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  • #84485
    rickprado
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    Re: My observations on Krav Maga culture,it’s growth and instructors.

    Here’s the same guys personal protection site. Love the glasses.

    http://www.ultimatebodyguard.com/paginalaz.html

    #84488
    catapult
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    Seems to me, Wingate is the closest thing we have to an impartial referee since Imi died. They will certify anyone who meets the (real) requirements. There are plenty of good instructors who aren’t Wingate certified but, as the frauds get more numerous, it seems like it would be worth the good instructors’ while to get Wingate certified and to put out the word that that’s a test for frauds.

    #84490
    kevinmack
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    I love how that guys site has no mention at all of any qualification in any of the things he offers. Style over substance.

    #84491
    paco
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    quote rickprado:

    Here’s the same guys personal protection site. Love the glasses.

    http://www.ultimatebodyguard.com/paginalaz.html

    REAL professional site, the Matrix and the character from the Hit Man video game? Also, dude needs to learn finger control and keep his fingers off the trigger. Oh, and the glasses put his credibility over the top rofl2.

    #84495
    kmyoshi
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    I am digging the Terminator 2 theme though.

    #84496
    bear34
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    quote rickprado:

    Here’s the same guys personal protection site. Love the glasses.

    http://www.ultimatebodyguard.com/paginalaz.html

    THE BADGE. WTF.

    I just shot coffee out my nose. Is this Damien Ross’ cousin?

    #84497
    stuartf
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    The “martial arts” page on his bodyguard site has me rolling, apparently Krav has trained me so that I can only react once an attacker has started choking me or grabbed my wrist rofl2

    Also, he’s created his own martial art to address these problems: http://www.hokutoshinken.com/

    #84503
    rickprado
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    Re: My observations on Krav Maga culture,it’s growth and instructors.

    For only 65.00 an hour he can escort you to south beach nightclubs….hopefully he takes the shades off!

    #84505
    stuartf
    Member

    Re: My observations on Krav Maga culture,it’s growth and instructors.

    quote rickprado:

    For only 65.00 an hour he can escort you to south beach nightclubs….hopefully he takes the shades off!

    I’d be afraid he’d accidentally shoot me.

    #84521
    stickfig13
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    quote rickprado:

    Here’s the same guys personal protection site. Love the glasses.

    http://www.ultimatebodyguard.com/paginalaz.html

    He obviously spends more time being a bad ass than he does examining the possible IP infringement lawsuits he’s looking at with that website.

    #84525
    don
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    Re: My observations on Krav Maga culture,it’s growth and instructors.

    I think someone needs to show him how to correctly mount an Eotech and Eotech magnifier (hint: not only is your Eotech backwards, it should also be in front of the magnifier) and properly grip a Magpul AFG (hint: you don’t hold it like a vertical foregrip)…

    #84526
    don
    Member

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    Oh and the guys on Bullshido exposed this guy Big Time…

    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=110372

    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=106552

    and btw, this is hokuto shinken…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUlFqL72iV0

    #84527
    mdeaneuscg
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    quote Don:

    I think someone needs to show him how to correctly mount an Eotech and Eotech magnifier (hint: not only is your Eotech backwards, it should also be in front of the magnifier) and properly grip a Magpul AFG (hint: you don’t hold it like a vertical foregrip)…

    That is so much better than the Tears of the Sun Aimpoint mounting mistake.

    My $0.02 on this the instructor model though, is that the actual training time must be taken into account. If you take a student that has studied their martial art for 3 years to obtain an instructor certification, but due to his time constraints, can only make it 2 days a week for an hour, then that student has spent 312 hours of training time total, if he was never injured or sick and couldn’t make a class. Then, if you take a student that goes to an instructor course that is condensed into say 3 weeks, training 6 days a week for 10 hours a day, you get an instructor that has 180 training hours.Are they totally on par, no, but the difference is not as drastic as if you just say 3 weeks vs. 3 years.

    However, I firmly believe (as the military has taught me) that a good leader/instructor is first a good follower/student. I certainly do not think that someone with no krav experience should be able to take an instructor course and come out an instructor. You learn how to be a instructor by watching those that instruct, and learning different styles of instruction. I believe that someone should have to at least obtain a level 2 certification before they can go to an instructor course.

    Not to get too deep into military analogy, but a 0-1 (Ensign, 2nd Lt.) coming straight from the academy is not going to get the same respect from the enlisted as one coming from prior enlisted service. They wear the same rank, but one has more operational experience than the other. The prior enlisted had to learn to be a good follower, while the academy grad hasn’t seen any real service yet.

    It is the same thing with Krav. I will respect and trust the judgement of an instructor that took the time to learn the system, and then get his instructor cert. much more over one that simply went to the course. Krav was meant to be learned quickly by the end user, but to teach it that way, you must have a deeper understanding of it than is required of the end user. You have to know why you are running a certain drill or teaching a certain technique, and not just by regurgitating what a book or an instructor at your course said.

    #84593
    sicpuppy
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    quote MDeaneUSCG:

    That is so much better than the Tears of the Sun Aimpoint mounting mistake.

    My $0.02 on this the instructor model though, is that the actual training time must be taken into account. If you take a student that has studied their martial art for 3 years to obtain an instructor certification, but due to his time constraints, can only make it 2 days a week for an hour, then that student has spent 312 hours of training time total, if he was never injured or sick and couldn’t make a class. Then, if you take a student that goes to an instructor course that is condensed into say 3 weeks, training 6 days a week for 10 hours a day, you get an instructor that has 180 training hours.Are they totally on par, no, but the difference is not as drastic as if you just say 3 weeks vs. 3 years.

    However, I firmly believe (as the military has taught me) that a good leader/instructor is first a good follower/student. I certainly do not think that someone with no krav experience should be able to take an instructor course and come out an instructor. You learn how to be a instructor by watching those that instruct, and learning different styles of instruction. I believe that someone should have to at least obtain a level 2 certification before they can go to an instructor course.

    Not to get too deep into military analogy, but a 0-1 (Ensign, 2nd Lt.) coming straight from the academy is not going to get the same respect from the enlisted as one coming from prior enlisted service. They wear the same rank, but one has more operational experience than the other. The prior enlisted had to learn to be a good follower, while the academy grad hasn’t seen any real service yet.

    It is the same thing with Krav. I will respect and trust the judgement of an instructor that took the time to learn the system, and then get his instructor cert. much more over one that simply went to the course. Krav was meant to be learned quickly by the end user, but to teach it that way, you must have a deeper understanding of it than is required of the end user. You have to know why you are running a certain drill or teaching a certain technique, and not just by regurgitating what a book or an instructor at your course said.

    So, I have 13 months of training- can I instruct too? Lol

    #84594
    sicpuppy
    Member

    Re: My observations on Krav Maga culture,it’s growth and instructors.

    Speaking strictly as a student, and knowing virtually nothing about this organization or that organization, I want my instructor to have some experience behind that certificate.

    An instructor should have at least been in a fight or something in his/her life. How can you respect or take self defense training from someone who had never had to defend themself? How can that instructor prepare you to take a hit if he/she never got hit? This is a problem with alot of people. You train and train, but when the kick to the groin and pluck doesn’t work like it does in the gym, you are next going to be hit! You will be surprised by both!

    I also want my instructor to have an affiliation with a legitimate KM organization. At least this way there is at least a hope you are learning the right things.

    Add I said, I know nothing of the mechanisms of a KM organization, but I would really rather it not be all that easy to become an instructor. I also want the instructor to focus on the history of KM, and of the affiliate. And, I think the affiliate probably should push for individual membership, and not just membership for the schools.

    I think if my affiliate at least knew I existed, there might be more interest in my training. I would rather see some sort of ”Chain of Command”, so the instructor or school is responsible to someone to ensure the training and the instructors conform to a standard. I would like to know how my school or instructors rank in the system, and how I rank in that system.

    I have lots to say about this, but really, who cares? All the organizations are faceless and could care less.

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