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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/default.cdnx/id/11925653/displaymode/1157
Two things: one is that I’m just absolutely horrified by the lack of action by the people around them (I just can’t believe more people wouldn’t try to help a defenseless KID), but the other is that it just reinforces my mindset that *I* am the only person I can count on if I’m attacked.
That was horrifying, and I don’t mind saying that when the other guys went to help it brought tears to my eyes … I’d help in a heartbeat!!! It’s disgusting that the others didn’t help.
Such events happen time and time again. Some lady in England was assaulted on the train a while back, and nobody came to help (there were other passangers on the train).
goo post nancy pants. I am glad that some one stood up. I think if just the people on this board intervene it can make a huge difference.
There’s a rule that I live by: don’t be afraid to be wrong.
I believe that those bystanders failed to act NOT because they were afraid of physical violence, but because they were afraid of embarrassing themselves by taking a wrong action.
I was once flipped a u-turn in traffic, left my car in the middle of the street and ran up to help a woman who was being assaulted by a man. It turns out that the woman was a former heroin addict going to by alcohol and drugs. The man was an acquaintance trying to stop her.
I still don’t regret what I did, because having that attitude also allowed me to stop jerks beating up their girlfriends in two other public situations (my favorite was actually much less dramatic — rescuing the seats of two little kids at a football game whose places had been commandeered by a bunch of fraternity jerks; not so dramatic, but it was the only time I actually felt like a good guy!).
it bugs me that they didn’t even stop to dial 911. they didn’t even have to jump in like the two guys.
I was impressed by the two \”heros\”. I don’t think I saw them verbally communicate with each other once but their actions were almost synchronized. Watching them simultaneously break into a sprint, fan out and cut off the attacker’s avenues of escape was beautiful.
I agree – They appeared to know the \”right thing\” to do, and did it without thinking or discussing it. They are heroes even though it was’t \”real.\”
Having two little ones and a third on the way, this stuff makes me sick. This report was actually one of many in the series that I think started on dateline or something. Good information comes from this guy on how to help prepare and protect your kids.
As far as the other people who ignored what was going on, it unfortunately does not surprise me all that much. I have seen people who I thought were cowards turn into heroes and vice versa in bad situations. I guess the first step maybe just trying to prepare yourself to act in a way that you want to, so that when the time comes, you do the right thing.
All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing. ñ Edmund Burke
taking him down
I know I would have helped. I don’t get to think about whether I should get involved I just find myself in the middle of the situation and then have to think about the best way to deal with it when I’m there. I suppose it is something to do with how your wired.
It did raise one question though which I am sure the people on this board are only too accomplished to answer. When the third guy was talking about ‘taking him down’ what would be the best way to do this? The standard running diving, rugby tackle leaves the back of your head exposed and the front of your face susceptible to knees (I’m sure we have all learnt that one the hard way.)
I am a small guy and so what would be the best way I could use my momentum to ‘take him down’ whilst trying to gain some control over the potential abductor when I am down there?
I wasn’t able to open the link, but was that a story where they staged the abduction of a child to see what passerbys would do about it? Sounds very similar. I saw this on TV some weeks ago.
In that case looked like a lot of people weren’t really paying much attention, chatting on phones etc. Many probably thought the child was just misbehaving.
I don’t think one would have to do a takedown to intervene in that situation. Just going over there and firmly asking what he is doing and if he has any business talking to that child should do the trick. Ask the child if he/she is related to him. If he becomes combative, then one would have to fight from there. But I think there is a good chance that he might just want to get away quickly. I guess you couldn’t just tackle the guy in that situation, if you did and you were wrong (maybe he really is the father) then this could pose a problem.
On the note on people embarrassing themselves, that makes me think of a story this guy from SNL (long black hair, new guy, forget the name, Andy Samburg or something like that) told on the David Letterman show about shooting a student film in LA. They had no budget and no permits, so they just shot their movie on the street. In this one scene, they were simulating a robbery, some guys robbing and beating up an old lady on the sidewalk (who was really just a young actress in disguise). The guy with the camera was on the other side of the street, out of sight.
So they \”beat up\” the \”old lady\” on this busy boulevard (I think Olympic) and nobody cared. Suddenly, a car stopped and out jumps Kiefer Sutherland ready to intervene and beat up the thugs. They were all starstruck and he apparently realized his mistake pretty quickly. He was embarrassed but really nice about it. Unfortunately for the filmmakers, the guy with the camera stopped shooting, not able to recognize Sutherland from across the street and thinking some crazy guy had just ruined the shot.
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quote \”KMCat\:I’m not suprised.This is the effect of 30+ years of a lawsuit saturated society.
but can one be sued for asking if the little girl was okay? I am sure that is all it would have taken and the perp would have fled…
Just a few weeks ago,
My wife and I were enjoying a day of shopping and we were staying at very nice Casino on the strip. We were on our way inside with all of the bags that we had compiled during that afternoon and I observed a couple that appeared to be having a dispute. The female attempted to walk away from her boyfriend. Out of nowhere, the male grabs his female companions arm spins her around and pops her in the mouth and she goes down hard. My wife and I helped the young lady stand.
I was going to bust this guy up anyways but he made it easier for me. He approached me and said some not so nice things. So I beat his ass. I did not put him in the hospital but he \”understood\” that should he persist he may be the recipient of a one way ticket to a medical facility. The funny thing is, that there were at least 50 other people around the entrance when this happened and I was the only one who stepped up. It is amazing! It’s better to apologize after taking action than to avoid taking action and apologizing for that instead.
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