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quote \”JewishFitness1976\:How long does it take to get very physically fit in Krav Maga ? Thank youI think if you look at things as having a finish point, you’ll stop working once you reach that goal. So how long does it take to get physically fit? The rest of your life.
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quote \”vwr32\:quote \”JewishFitness1976\:How long does it take to get very physically fit in Krav Maga ? Thank youI think if you look at things as having a finish point, you’ll stop working once you reach that goal. So how long does it take to get physically fit? The rest of your life.
True, you have a good point.
That is a great point. BUT…I began to notice distinct improvements in my physique and health/stamina within about 2 months.
It’s an open question. I thought with all the discussion on fitness and being fit, that it would be easy for people to point out someone they saw as fit, or maybe define what they think being fit is.
\”Very physically fit\” is going to have very different definitions for different people. Someone whose goal is peak raw strength will see that as fitness. A marathon runner will see stamina and speed as the number one concerns.
Personally, I see someone who lives healthily, eats well, and can perform admirably in a wide range of physical activities as \”fit.\”
Compared to my worst shape, I am now \”fit,\” as I am thinner (in the middle), more muscular (in the legs, arms and torso) and stronger. Compared to my best shape, I am now old, fat, slow and weak.
Of course, there will be a million more specifics, while at the same time, the old Supreme Court pornography rule: I know it when I see it.To attempt to define \”fitness\” for all people in a single soundbite or based on one person, culture, or training style is a quite difficult proposition, though the discussion thereof could bring a great deal of interesting thought to the topic.
What about you? What do you consider \”fit.\” What about \”very physically fit\” like the above poster asked about?
Favorite quote:
\”Marathon runners are sorely lacking in strength, speed, power, flexibility, accuracy, agility, and coordination, but they’ve sure got a lock on malnutrition.\” 😆Who is fit? My 15 year old weighs 135 pounds. His body fat is 4-5%, resting heart rate is in the 40’s and his blood pressure is extremly low. He can shoulder press his body weight, deadlift twice his weight and is closing on cleaning 1.5 times his body weight. He can do 10 muscle ups, 30 strict pull ups and 50+ kipping pull ups. He can run a mile in under 5:00.
I would say he is \”very physically fit\”
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quote \”garddawg\:Favorite quote:
\”Marathon runners are sorely lacking in strength, speed, power, flexibility, accuracy, agility, and coordination, but they’ve sure got a lock on malnutrition.\” 😆Who is fit? My 15 year old weighs 135 pounds. His body fat is 4-5%, resting heart rate is in the 40’s and his blood pressure is extremly low. He can shoulder press his body weight, deadlift twice his weight and is closing on cleaning 1.5 times his body weight. He can do 10 muscle ups, 30 strict pull ups and 50+ kipping pull ups. He can run a mile in under 5:00.
I would say he is \”very physically fit\”
I would have to agree he is very physically fit too. I’ve been thinking about this question since you first asked, \”who would you say is fit?\”, and I don’t think I know anyone in the same category as your son. Web definitions of \”fit\” and \”healthy\” are rather broad and usually include both physical and mental health, warning of *obsessive* patterns of fitness which can lead to overtraining or injury.
As important as becoming physically fit is to krav, I’m really surprised at how few threads there are about the topic.
Down to 186.5 this morning, getting ready to hit the home gym. Short term goal is to be under 185 by monday morning weigh-in…. if anyone cared lol.
That was thoughtful vwr32. Most people will just spout out something without thinking about it.
Here again is a problem with the fitness industry. they purport to sell fitness and yet really cannot provide a definition of their product. On the other side consumers want to become fit and yet cannot tell you what it means to be fit.
The thing is with trying to define fitness is that its a sliding scale and a slippery slope all at the same time.Its extremely individual, which is why what works for me may not work for you. Everybody has a different image of what that would be, but like most goals it lays as an abstract concept that they can’t articulate. One of the reasons we all have trouble with achieving goals.
Fitness is also job/sport specific. Whats right for a golfer is not necessarily right for an NFL linbacker. Nor is the linebackers ideal fitness necessarily the same as a NBA point guard. From there again it breaks down to individuality because we always can improve if we push ourselves and also we all must recover from set backs such as sickness,injury,time restraints,etc
Instead of trying to define fitness, an abstract concept at best and a word that will keep you out there somewhere always. I think its better to think in terms of whats healthy and then get set to work on simple improvements to improve your strength and conditioning. These are tangible and definable goals. Meaning if I can do 10 push ups today. I start pushing for 11 till I get there. The thing that S@C develops, is that will to push thru. When you develope that you realize how much you’ve sold yourself short in this life. You can do 1000xs more than you think you can. We.ve been taught to sell ourselves short..
Look at the fundamentals first of nutrition and excercise. Like krav you need to build a structure,only until you build that and internalize it can you move on.Then I got to challenge myself to do a little more each day,,by setting a course and blowing all obstacles out of the water. Asking simply what can I do right now \”What can I do right now. Unfortunately, most of us focus on what we can’t do.
I always write stuff like this to help someone else. When I read it back it amazes me how mush I needed to hear that message. Its funny how thar works
mike
Again another thoughtful answer. I would argue though that fitness can be measured. Skill sets need to be different fitness should be quantifiable.
In your example of the difference between the golfer and linebacker. I would contend that both make concession to their overall fitness to achieve a higher level of specificity.
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quote \”garddawg\:Again another thoughtful answer. I would argue though that fitness can be measured. Skill sets need to be different fitness should be quantifiable.In your example of the difference between the golfer and linebacker. I would contend that both make concession to their overall fitness to achieve a higher level of specificity.
I don’t think we’re in that much of disagreement. 😆 I just think an idividual measure is whats important. If you set a fitness standard and 10 guys take it. One will do better. So does that become the measure of what fitness is. Next month they run the same test another guy breaks that. The measure’s always fluid. What your 15 year old can do today, will he be able to do at 60. Personally I hope so. 😉 Thats why i equate it to a sliding scale
To me fitness is an abstract concept. I am very interested in your definition and how you measure it.. I respect you opinions and your site led me to this kind of training
After years of screwing up, I think most approach this stuff wrong. The fitness porn continues to lead us more astray. Even the original question on this thread is off base. No offense meant to Jewishfitness. Working out is a life process. Measuring fitness or defining it by another persons standards only sets limits to a limitless potential. Especially for a beginner. We all start at different places, where we end up is up to us.
I’m not sure I understand the why of seperating skill sets from fitness. i see it as the base that holds up the house(THe skills). I believe the fitness must support the skill sets. Actors have screwed that up for years trying to train the body seperate from skills by using yoga and stuff. However, one must work to support the other. What good does it do for a boxer to define his fitness level to a marathoners. The marathoners fitness standards don’t support the fighters needs. Why do an excercise that doesn’t support the reason you train.
That to me is the 1st step, defining why you train and then find the excercises to support that.
I really look forward to your thoughts. You’ve actually turned this thread subtly into something. Your stuff is always worth while.
Again Jewish fitness, don’t take this personally. You seem to be enthusiastic and want to learn. i don’t want to squash that in you. Start with where you are and what you can do. Don’t look to when I can, look to what can I do today. I think in another post I gave you some excellent leads. The other day I found judo for $5 a month and $20 a month in Los Angeles at local Japanese center, great instructors as well. There is always a boxing or wrestling coach somewhere.Training is there if you look till you can get to that krav school. All will serve you well till you get to train with John and Gardawg
Mike
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