Workouts & Krav

[unstpabl1]

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quote garddawg:

From Coach Glassman:

World-Class Fitness in 100 Words:

■ Eat meat and vegetables, nuts and seeds,
some fruit, little starch and no sugar. Keep
intake to levels that will support exercise but
not body fat.

■ Practice and train major lifts: Deadlift, clean,
squat, presses, C&J, and snatch. Similarly,
master the basics of gymnastics: pull-ups,
dips, rope climb, push-ups, sit-ups, presses to
handstand, pirouettes, flips, splits, and holds.
Bike, run, swim, row, etc, hard and fast.

■ Five or six days per week mix these ele-
ments in as many combinations and patterns
as creativity will allow. Routine is the enemy.
Keep workouts short and intense.

■ Regularly learn and play new sports.

Really all you need to know.

I just love your posts. Its like this kind of dose:chair:of common sense

[ds314]

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Thanks everyone. I’ve already changed my routine some. I feel better already. I would like to cross-train more though. I’ll look into some of the cross-fit lifts etc.

DS314

[tchort64]

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quote DS314:

I’ve been attending Krav classes 3 days a week. I started taking Krav on 3/31/08. I have to admit since I starting taking Krav, I’m pretty sore all the time, alot of aches and pain. I think I’m sore because of Krav and Bas Rutten, not from the Gym. Krav and Bas have me moving in ways I normally do not move. I will be 44 in July. Before Krav I basically jogged about 5 miles per day and went to the gym 3 days a week so I was in fairly good shape when I started Krav. Are any of you, especially those of you who around my age or order sore all the time also?

Here is my current workout regimen.
Krav – 3 times a week
Bas Rutten MMA Workouts – At least 3 times per Week. Usually after Krav.
Local Gym 3 – Times Per week
Workout at the Gym
120 push-ups
60 dips
50 chin-up/pull ups
4 sets of rows
4 sets of reverse curls
3 sets of leg presses
3 sets of shoulder shrugs
3 sets of shoulder lifts
2 sets of detoild side lifts

DS314

Holy Crap :OhMy: That’s amazing I would drop dead if I exerted that much energy . I will be 44 in July too and am struggling with Krav 2 x a wk on top of weight training . Planning on going more when my cardio improves .

[unstpabl1]

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quote tchort64:

Holy Crap with Krav 2 x a wk on top of weight training . Planning on going more when :OhMy:my cardio improves .

This isn’t a comment but more a question to ponder. I’m pondering it myself. Wouldn’t your cardio improv if you took more krav? Meaning if cardio is the weak link wouldn’t bringing that up to speed by working the event more and letting the weights go for a bit till your happy being the Energizer Bunny:dunno:

[tchort64]

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quote unstpabl1:

This isn’t a comment but more a question to ponder. I’m pondering it myself. Wouldn’t your cardio improv if you took more krav? Meaning if cardio is the weak link wouldn’t bringing that up to speed by working the event more and letting the weights go for a bit till your happy being the Energizer Bunny:dunno:

Yes it would but I am only going to my 2nd class tomorrow and strength training will be secondary when my cardio and flexability improves . Planning on 2x week and then more when my lung capacity is better . My blood pressure was 150 over 104 so i have to ease into it . I don’t want to have a stroke or heart attack .

[unstpabl1]

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quote tchort64:

Yes it would but I am only going to my 2nd class tomorrow and strength training will be secondary when my cardio and flexability improves . Planning on 2x week and then more when my lung capacity is better . My blood pressure was 150 over 104 so i have to ease into it . I don’t want to have a stroke or heart attack .

Cool. totally understand. A friend and instructor lost a student during a very lite bjj session a few weeks back. 24 y/o. Hot day. Said he had to go to the bathroom. They realized he hadn’t come back and found him down. Didn’t respond to CPR. Think he had a unknown heart problem.

So take your time and err on the side of caution… I do… My thought was that doing the event,,,improves the event… and depending on how your using the weights might not be taking you the direction your trying to go

See even in this post your saying your weakness is your cardio( i get winded walking to the bathroomthumbsup) and flexibility. You define your weakness but your supplimental training focus is on strength training. I’m pointing it out to help.

Power Yoga or my favorite new thing,YRG or Yoga For Regular Guys would be a more focused periodization phase for what your trying to accomplish by your own posts here. As it works both flexibility and expanding lung capacity, as do more traditional methods like running or cardio machines, jump ropes, walking and stretching programs or even walking as active rest days. But YRG aids in the recovery and resilency stage of toughness training.

Hope you see where I’m going with this. If you don’t just cross me off as another internet yahoo with dumb advice;):Good luck with your training

[tchort64]

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quote unstpabl1:

Cool. totally understand. A friend and instructor lost a student during a very lite bjj session a few weeks back. 24 y/o. Hot day. Said he had to go to the bathroom. They realized he hadn’t come back and found him down. Didn’t respond to CPR. Think he had a unknown heart problem.

So take your time and err on the side of caution… I do… My thought was that doing the event,,,improves the event… and depending on how your using the weights might not be taking you the direction your trying to go

See even in this post your saying your weakness is your cardio( i get winded walking to the bathroomthumbsup) and flexibility. You define your weakness but your supplimental training focus is on strength training. I’m pointing it out to help.

Power Yoga or my favorite new thing,YRG or Yoga For Regular Guys would be a more focused periodization phase for what your trying to accomplish by your own posts here. As it works both flexibility and expanding lung capacity, as do more traditional methods like running or cardio machines, jump ropes, walking and stretching programs or even walking as active rest days. But YRG aids in the recovery and resilency stage of toughness training.

Hope you see where I’m going with this. If you don’t just cross me off as another internet yahoo with dumb advice;):Good luck with your training

Thanks and np . I always take advice especially from informed and educated people like yourself . I am 6 ft 240 and a bit of a pork chop . My goal is to get down to 220-225lbs just need to lose the gut no fat anywhere else on me . I don’t have bullet holes in my ass lol . Just a classic barstool build . I have boxing and kung fu experience as well but I will put any krav w 6months training against any other art np . It kicks my ass and I also bounce on the weekends . I do bench , curls and heavy bag . 3days a wk and krav 2x wk although it took me almost a week to recover from my first work out in class mostly my thighs and the holiday stopped me from getting in my 2nd day last week.

[unstpabl1]

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quote tchort64:

Thanks and np . I always take advice especially from informed and educated people like yourself . I am 6 ft 240 and a bit of a pork chop . My goal is to get down to 220-225lbs just need to lose the gut no fat anywhere else on me . I don’t have bullet holes in my ass lol . Just a classic barstool build . I have boxing and kung fu experience as well but I will put any krav w 6months training against any other art np . It kicks my ass and I also bounce on the weekends . I do bench , curls and heavy bag . 3days a wk and krav 2x wk although it took me almost a week to recover from my first work out in class mostly my thighs and the holiday stopped me from getting in my 2nd day last week.

I got you by a few pounds and am shorter.:OhMy: Part of my problem is I was the skinney kid. In fact I was called almost petite by a effemenate gay critic one time.rofl2 .Anyway I had a lot of good guidance on this stuff and like to help.

The Heavy bag will help the goal. But it sounds like your doing Bodybuilding type isolation type exercises. As we talked about earlier this may not be the best focus and may even hinder. There is a big difference between a fighters body and a BB’ers though both can be ripped. I think Garddawg posted on this thread, his advice might be worth revisiting

It sounds like your making krav your focus, so search this thread and old posts to figure out your path

Good Luck.

[ds314]

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Update – I’m doing the Bas Rutten – All Around Workout CD 3 times a week now. I still cannot get through the whole thing yet. The last set of 56 jumping knees to the chest gets me everytime. I can do about 15 and then I do jumping squats and then try to do some more knees to the chest. However since doing the Bas workouts I feel that my stamina is increasing. I recover faster and can catch my breath faster. I do have some questions about the YRG workouts for those that do them. What do they help with, breathing and flexibility?
DS314

[unstpabl1]

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quote DS314:

Update – I’m doing the Bas Rutten – All Around Workout CD 3 times a week now. I still cannot get through the whole thing yet. The last set of 56 jumping knees to the chest gets me everytime. I can do about 15 and then I do jumping squats and then try to do some more knees to the chest. However since doing the Bas workouts I feel that my stamina is increasing. I recover faster and can catch my breath faster. I do have some questions about the YRG workouts for those that do them. What do they help with, breathing and flexibility?
DS314

Both. If you go to thier site you can ask DDP. You move into each pose on a full inhale or exhale. Full belly breathing. So its about breath control. Now I don’t consider a replacement for sprints, but it is an overlooked piece of the puzzle. Plus its cheap and easy to learn. Dvd’s also have hot Yoga babes to look at or the book is like $20. I use the book and do it a couple times a week. Also watching Arthurs transformation is very inspiring. Another thing is DDP is very hands on and helpful as well as a US troop supporter. He goes to Iraq and Afganistan every year. I know a lot of guys who’ve incorporated it to their programs. Hope that helps

[tchort64]

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quote unstpabl1:

I got you by a few pounds and am shorter.:OhMy: Part of my problem is I was the skinney kid. In fact I was called almost petite by a effemenate gay critic one time.rofl2 .Anyway I had a lot of good guidance on this stuff and like to help.

The Heavy bag will help the goal. But it sounds like your doing Bodybuilding type isolation type exercises. As we talked about earlier this may not be the best focus and may even hinder. There is a big difference between a fighters body and a BB’ers though both can be ripped. I think Garddawg posted on this thread, his advice might be worth revisiting

It sounds like your making krav your focus, so search this thread and old posts to figure out your path

Good Luck.

I plan on getting an elliptical machine for more tone overall also gonna try tabata 4min of pain to gain . Thanks again for sound advice . Off to class tonite 8pm eastern .

[unstpabl1]

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quote tchort64:

I plan on getting an elliptical machine for more tone overall also gonna try tabata 4min of pain to gain . Thanks again for sound advice . Off to class tonite 8pm eastern .

I like elipticals because they are easy on the joints, even the programs are good. A suggestion would be to really mix up what your doing. Like the Tabatas one day, a program the next, intervals the next, 2-3 mile hike the next. quater mile run, 10 push up for rounds for 20 minutes. Lotsa variables

[alamocitykid]

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quote mara_jade:

Well said Jeremy! DS – No one’s saying for you to give up, but your body’s needs to rest and recover. I’m in my 40’s and I do get sore still. I know when my body needs a break, even if I don’t want tothumbsup

Jeremy- Hubby came across the crossfit website yesterday while looking for some kettlebell videos for me.. OMG – that website has so much info. I think I read about crossfit from a post of yours – thanks:wav:

Holy Cow MJ !! All this time I thought you were in your 20s and had married someone older!!

[ds314]

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I did the Bas All Around Workout Fri, Sun, Mon and went to the gym after work to do my dips, push-ups, and chin-ups/pull-ups. Holy cow – I increase the number of dips I could do by 15 easily. I think I could have done another 20 or so. The push-ups were alot easier also. I think it’s because of the Bas All Around Workout. It’s helping me increase my stamina.
DS314

[unstpabl1]

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quote DS314:

I did the Bas All Around Workout Fri, Sun, Mon and went to the gym after work to do my dips, push-ups, and chin-ups/pull-ups. Holy cow – I increase the number of dips I could do by 15 easily. I think I could have done another 20 or so. The push-ups were alot easier also. I think it’s because of the Bas All Around Workout. It’s helping me increase my stamina.
DS314

Nah. Its because you got his voice screaming at you in your head.

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