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  • #52822
    starall
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    Unless you are unaware and/or unconscious, don’t let the hands get around your neck in the first place. You should already be bringing your hands up in a reaction defense to prevent the choke. You should also learn how to move those on-coming hands to the side/apart to get into the \”grappling\” range. Knees, elbows, and headbutts would now follow. Maybe a bite, eye gouge, or trachia hit would work at this time. Go after them with all you have. Keep hitting until the subject’s goals change. If this choke does occur, hook those hands and clear the immediate threat to the throat. This in turn should cause the subject to \”flinch\” subconsciously. In a half-beat tempo, before subject regains the conscious ability to defend, the kick should be launched hard into the A-frame (groin area). Continue to move forwards attacking vital spots. (Train to strike those vital spots.) In the classroom you will back off when that initial kick is launched. That can lead mistakes in the actual situation. There should not be a hesitation after any strike and there should be constant attack. Let him/her cry or scream but finish the job. Your training partner should be reacting as a bad guy to give you the actual sound and visual effects.

    #50296
    starall
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    Defensive Tactics…my two cents worth

    I have attended various LE training for the past 15 years. I have been a PPCT Instructor, KRAV LE Inst., and am currently certified DAAT, Taser, and SPEAR instructor for our Dept. I am always looking at systems for training to see what each one offers. There are certain things I see in each training seminar that I can see working and some things that don’t. All you have to do is see the things that work on the street and things that don’t to make that evaluation.

    It is my belief that you must develop your \”whole\” self for this job. That is a hard thing to do. You must be in good physical condition and KRAV can do that for you. The conditioning that Londale put us through when I went through the course was awesome. But you need to stay with it and practice it when all is said and done.

    Mental conditioning comes along with being in good physical condition and understanding that you can \”hold your own\” while training. That can give you the edge when it comes to street confrontations.

    Then there is that psych condition where you simply \”Know\” that you can handle yourself against the other guy/girl. You have trained to be physically fit, you have learned all the techniques in various training seminars, you have practiced those techniques and discarded the ones that don’t make sense, and now develop that confidence on the street. That is so important because you will first rely on your presence (body language communicates more than verbal) and then try de-escalate things verbally. Having confidence in yourself and your tools will not only allow yourself to realize that you can control the bad guy if needed, but will also allow you to rely on de-escalation skills to keep it from getting to a physical confrontation.

    Fights on the street differ from all training. There are no rules and Big John won’t be there to call it off when shit hits the fan. Remember that scenario dictates what level of force you use and not the specific attack. (Ex. Man executes a front choke/push on the street is a whole lot different than a man executing a front choke/push on a bridge 120 feet above water. The attack is the same but the scenario differs. Kick to the A-frame and punch to the face may help you in that first scenario but a .40 cal round might have to come into play in the 2nd scenario.)

    #36732
    starall
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    Brachial Stuns can be done to the side of the neck from the front or from behind the person. For LE it is done with the forearm from the front. The knife hand would be considered too dangerous because of the chance of messing up the vertebra in the neck. LE would use it, from the rear, if the subject was down on his knees fighting with someone else. Another good one is a scapular stun from the rear. That is also a shot from behind where a double downward strike to the shoulder/neck area is done with closed fists. Obviously these strikes may or may not disrupt a person. They are stun techniques used to take a persons mind set from \”I will kick your ass!\” to \”what the hell just hit me!\”

    #35922
    starall
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    ASP

    I am a Defense & Arrest Inst. as well as a Taser Inst. in Wisc. We are allowed to strike to the knee or elbow in this state to disable the joint. If the joint isn’t disabled then the ASP can be not as effective. If it hits the muscle of the leg it may cause pain. Those who are drunk or on drugs may not feel the pain. That is a problem.

    The other problem is that when the officer is using the ASP, they simply start depending on that tool and focus on a certain area. They fail to realize that they have an empty hand and movement that can be used to defend themselves. In our redman practice with our officers, I simply take one strike and rush the officer. They have to protect themselves with movement and the empty hand. Many fail to do so because they are concentrating on the baton and the leg.

    The Taser overrides the central nervous system. It does not rely on pain compliance. It doesn’t matter how big or drugged the person is, it knocks them on their ass with no fight. That also depends on the probes landing properly. We are constantly using the Taser and our constant offending citizens realize that they will not fight against the Taser.

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