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Our department is supposedly going to get tne Taser also. I think we are just waiting for the bad publicity to die down a bit. I also have found myself hands on rather than thumping someone with the ASP, but unfortunatley, most the officers I work with are not comfortable going hands on unless they have too. Its to bad, because I have seen guys go to the impact weapon when it really wasn’t necessary.
I had to get into this converstation. I think it is an unfair to pull statistics or examples of pro-style MMA fights when talking about effective street fighting. Let’s be honest here, most of those guys have trained for years, and at the pro level, most only train or teach. If you want to see how effective people are who have mostly a BBJ background, watch some amatuer MMA fights. I have noticed most fighters at this level have little or no striking skills and the fights drag on and on. If the opportunity presents itself, of course I am going to take an arm or an elbow, but don’t think a person with a broken arm can’t continue the fight. Being a cop, I have seen guys do some crazy stuff with broken bones. Plus, I don’t like to be on the ground with anyone longer than I need to be. I constantly drill this into the guys I train at work. I am very comfrotable ground fighting or stand-up fighting and love training in both styles, but it is my opponent’s friends I worry about.
Thanks for the comments!
My immediate reaction was similar to prekarious. Officers are likely not properly trained in effective use of their ASP. Being a DT instructor, I always have felt an ASP is an effective impact weapon with proper training. Unfortunately, as in most all departments nowadays, shortages in budget have lead to cuts in training time.
Dugfoot made some great points also regarding the ineffectiveness of less-than-lethal techniques on intoxicated suspects. The captain who brang this to my attention is under the impression (based on the conversation with a lawyer..that should have been a clue!!) that a single wooden baton strike is more effective than several ASP strikes. Has anyone had any personal past experiences with using both a wooden baton and the ASP? I would like to hear your opinion on the differences. I have always carried only an ASP.
Keep the comments coming! I am gather all this info to present at an upcoming staff meeting.
Freddy
I have been training for five years, but I never test so I am only a Level II. I don’t get hung up on the rank thing…a wise instructor once told me, \”I’d rather be a badass orange belt than a halfass green belt!\”
I have been training Krav for 5 years and fighting in Muay Thai bouts for the last 2 years. MT is great for putting all those strikes you learn in Krav together. The fundamentals of MT will be easy to learn if you have a solid KM background. If you really want to add to your street fighting self-defense, you might want to try some traditional Japanese jui-jitsu. You’ll learn great control hold/ pain compliance skills and some awesome throws and submissions. I trained in Dan Zan Ryu Jui-jitsu for over a year and it was friggin’ brutal!
