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Maybe it’s just me, but I saw no real difference in technique than what I have been learning. Obviously if you watch 5 people do the same technique, they are not all going to look exactly the same. For example when Giantkiller said there was a bit of a shuffle step on the one. That may just be that guy.
Well I have realized not to listen to anything I read on forums. 99% of the people no nothing about what they are saying, and don’t have to worry about it from behind a computer. I mean if you read that systema forum, there is a guy who didnt like Krav because he tried it for a little bit, but his partner was not good, so he held that against Krav! I have worked with bad partners before in a few different styles, I don’t think its the style that is bad from that. Groing up I played hockey, some people on the team werent that great. Does this mean hockey sucks?
If you go to http://www.russianmartialart.com you can see some video techniques. Let me know if I am wrong here by thinking that this is one of the worst things you have ever seen.
Obviously to show a demo the attacker is going to react the way that it is most likely going to happen in real life. Well, if some of those things would put an attacker down in real life, then sign me up. I just don’t see it.
Then there were the knife disarming techniques. A couple of times he actually grabs the blade! Good thing its a plastic training knife. I really like the one were he doesnt use his hands, and stabs the guy with his chest.
I’m am sorry, but having trained in martial arts for a while, I have found that things that look cool, just look cool. Anything that looks like a Steven Seagall movie, as this does, stay away!What type of H2H fighting (martial arts) system do they use in the Teams and should I take martial arts classes prior to going to BUD/S?
– The Naval Special Warfare community does NOT recognize only one specific form of martial arts or system of fighting. All of the advertisements that say \”The OFFICIAL Navy SEAL Hand 2 Hand Comabt System…\” or anything similar is just a sales technique – nothing else. These \”systems\” or \”programs\” may have been used in platoon work-ups or in the Combat Fighting Course (CFC), but not one specific style is exclusive in the Teams. Some arts that are effective for application within the SEAL Teams include Ninjutsu and Israeli Krav Maga. Martial arts training is NOT able to prepare you for BUD/S (or the SEAL Teams in general), but it is beneficial in conditioning your mind, body and spirit.
This was on http://www.navyseals.com.
But as Jerry said, they really don’t learn much H2H combat. Every one I know who is in the military, and does martial arts, learns it from an outside source.
Yes thank you Yuri and Yaniv. I just wanted to know from people with actual experience in both. I figured that some of the training would be a little different do to different needs. But when kept hearing this watered down version, I was wondering if our training just wasnt even close. Thanks again for clearing it up.
Honestly you are right. It was just a out of curiousity. Even if I was told it wasn’t the same I would still go.
Yeah, I kind of got that impression from his site that he was an ass. All of the people that post on it also seem to think that no other style is good. I read today that he actually trained in KM for a while under someone I think named Mike Lichter. Anyone heard of him?
No. Boxing will not conflict with your Krav skills. If anything it will just add. Muay Thai and Kickboxing are not the same. I have had very (very) little experience in MT. But I do know a few people who have alot of training in that, and Bando which is very similar, (but good luck finding a Bando school).
They have gone to some of my Krav classes, and said that it is very similar in the techniques. The only real difference I think is that in MT, they train for sport. ( I think it is great for street also) But when fighting in competition in MT you need alot of stamina, so they really emphasize the cardio training in that.
And to answer your question about Kickboing and Muay Thai. Kickboxing, you can punch and kick. Muay Thai, you can Kick, Punch, Elbow, and Knee. Just like the way Krav teaches.It is two here and I just got back from the bar ,so I am going to reread this tommorow and see how I did.
Toppitbull, You said \”look at Fallujah\”. Ok, are there many h2h situations there? Just because it is close quarter, doesnt mean h2h. Like I said, and like what WIM said. The military gets basic h2h training, but it is rarely used.
Well, when I said that Muay Thai is very well known for it’s conditioning, it is also because of the nature of there sport. Just like Boxing, you have to be in good shape to go on that many rounds. So that is why they jump rope, run,do heavy bag work etc.
The good thing that we have here in KM, is that there is a source for us to talk about this. Personally I would like to have classes be run a certain way. I have been in classes where we do 55 min of kicking, punching, knees, elbows,pushups, running. And then 5 min of technique.That is In an advanced class. I can understand people who don’t know how to kick, and punch, doing that, so they get the basic strikes down, but not in a class were people know how to.
Then I’ve been in a class where you get 35-45 of the basic and then 15-25 of technique, which I like. It depends on whos teaching. But can’t we get some sort of consistency. So no matter who is teachng you know that your gonna learn something, and not just do what you can do on your own at the local gym, or in your house. I f I new how to do a poll I would. So maybe someone else could do one to see if they like that idea of some consistency( dont know if I’m spelling that right, let me know about this too)
The marketing is really making people think that. And I think it has gone more that way from the time I started till now.
As far as any school. Yes it totally depends on the instructor. Your going to have good and bad MT schools, and good and bad KM schools. I was just saying that in general MT is very well known for it’s conditioning, Just like KM.
So I don’t think it is controversial at all what you said, I agree. It still bothers me though.
