[sticman]

Re: what do you like in a KM class??

quote RFC:

–I was concerned there was going to be a bunch of rock-heads at the class. Much to my delight, it was filled with level-headed folks who, just like me, pull their pants on one leg at a time. Likewise, the instructors are “quality people”.

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RFC (aka: Ray)

This was one of my concerns as well, seeing as how big fighting is getting in the media now.

When I asked my instructors about this on my first day, they assured me that they take anyone who’s trying to be a tough guy aside and talk with them and straighten them out, or tear up their contracts and tell them they are not welcome anymore if they don’t.

I like getting worn out and beat up in safe friendly environment 🙂

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Re: what do you like in a KM class??

do get a little back on top, i’d like to retract my previous answer.

i thing my one of my favorite part of KM class is when i get a water break.

[sticman]

Re: what do you like in a KM class??

The drills that combine most of them together.

Like someone holding you back at the waist, while you try to strike a pad, mixed with chokers attacking you throughout intervals of the drill.

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Re: Pumped for Sparring…

quote Alamocitykid:

Too bad you missed class last night–12 folks showed up, and we did defenses against knife slashes. Pete taught and we did 360s for over an hour plus attacks with eyes closed to start. My right wrist is double the size of my left. All classes this week have been great. Did ground work in 1/2 on Wednesday with Pete as “visiting instructor”–two dudes puked before it was over.

We did 360 defense two days last week. my left forearm is one giant bruise, and my right forearm is pretty close to the same

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Re: Agree or disagree.

quote chris403:

3) Realistic Attacks

In the streets attacks aren’t static they are applied with movement. Much of the previous KM I learnt had chokes and strangles from static positions, where the person just stood and choked rather than tried to pull you to to the ground, take you off your feet.

This is the only one I feel qualified enough to make a larger statement on. In our classes, we learn defenses for choking while someone is pushing you, or pulling you, or pushing / pulling your shirt. We are encouraged to “mix up” our takes, slightly different angles, pushing harder or softer, once the person gets the technique on.

In general on the other things, in my opinion my school covers all of those well too.

Also the “Use of Gross Motor Skills & Simplicity” makes sense, but I would need to read more on what CKM does. Large swooping movements are easier to see coming for the attacker IMO.

We are also taught to leave the danger zone ASAP.

One more thing, the “Less reliance on punching” remark seems to go against the “Use of Gross Motor Skills & Simplicity”. It’s a natural reaction for most people to throw up their hands and swing when put in a bad situation, not kick, apply a hold, or go for a take down.

The styles sound very similar, in that they both focus on simplicity and realistic applications in neutralizing a dangerous situation.

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Re: Perhaps a silly question but…

quote Cottonwood-Combat:

I guess I wasn’t clear in my post, but you all have expressed exactly what I meant in my last post.

I think you were clear, but I think everyone wanted to throw in their 2 cents as well. I was trying to find a good example, building on your explanation 🙂

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Re: Perhaps a silly question but…

Our instructors definitely teach us if there is no possible way of escaping a fight, and you are sure it is going to happen (they do seminars on situational awareness etc. to help with this) to take someone out who is out to hurt you.

For example, we practice front kicks, which from what I understand are primarily used to keep someone at bay. So if someone has you backed in a corner, and is running towards you to choke you, you don’t wait for them to choke you so you can do your choke defense. You kick them in the stomach (or where it counts), and keep them away from you.

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Re: Training Frequency

thanks for the input! i just need to find the sweet spot of pushing myself enough so my body is still improving, and not pushing too hard, where i’m just hurting more than helping. one of these days i’m going to get through a pyramid bag workout where i don’t have to switch to modified pushups halfway through 😛

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Re: Why Krav?

I was originally attracted to the practically and self-defense vs ring sport side of things. It just makes sense to learn something that is immediately useful vs. takes months or even years to master and use effectively.

I was a little turned off by the price, but stayed because IMO the instruction at my location has to be some of the best. There are usually 3(sometimes 2 or 4) instructors working with us in every class. Our Chief Instructor (Jay Ackerman) makes it a point to get to all FOUR of his locations at least a couple nights a week (which can be as long as a 50 minute drive from location to location). All instructors try to switch locations so students can get a new instructor.

They are all great about pushing us, and not feeling dumb about asking questions about techniques. They will even go as far as to explain why it would make sense that we would think to do it a certain way, but then show us the correct way.

The system is awesome, but the instructors are just as great.

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Re: Question: Telling people about your training

pretty much everybody at my work knows about it, because they ask what in the hell happened to my arms after we do 360 defense drills. i think i might just bruise easily 🙂

all my friends know, because i have to tell them why i don’t hang out on tuesday, wednesday, and thursday anymore. and why i don’t drink on friday, since i have to wake up early on saturday.

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Re: Best Intro Class?

quote KMMAN:

I think an intro class (when mixed with a Lv1 class) should be your normal class and not out trying to “overdo” it to impress newbies. In other words not make more cardio or more whatever…just the normal class. The breakdown of the classes are nearly perfect so thats all they need.

Oh and to CJ’s Dad—-dont take clock watching personally! Some of us used the clock to pace ourselves in the beginning 😉 The door look may be an exit strategy for a quick upchuck!

I also think this is the best strategy. Show the student what class will really be like. The physical strain if they are out of shape, and that they will also be learning/reviewing techniques every class, not just getting a good workout.

I think the most important thing to do when newcomers come is to let them know they are doing JUST FINE when they gas, throwup, have to sit down etc. If it wasn’t for both the instructors AND students telling me “great job”, “it’s fine, we’ve all been there” repeatedly for not only my first, but next few weeks of classes (i was pretty out of shape), then I would have felt very discouraged to come back.

Also, some of us are looking at the clock to see if we are going to pass out or not 😉

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Re: Military KM vs Regular KM

our chief instructor in phoenix explained it like this after someone in class asked almost this exact same question a week or two ago (i may be misquoting, but this is what i remember).

civilian km – neutralize and get away from the danger.
police force km – neutralize and detain the danger.
military km – neutralize and eliminate or detain the danger.

makes sense to me.

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