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Re: History/Culture lesson?
Secretive?
I don’t think any organization has their curriculum online, but this site alone has plenty of info.
Not sure how much more you want. It’s all there, Imi/Darren relationship……
Re: "Why I Don’t Pretend to Teach Knife Defense"
quote Don:A 16 year old girl with 30 seconds of knife training [insert your description of bad guy or training bad guy here – I’m just using the one in the snippet] MIGHT cut me 20 times if I’m trying to be nice and just going for controlling the weapon hand or disarming or just trying to only defend and not get cut BUT I guarantee you that same girl won’t cut me nearly as much if I’m hitting her in the face as hard as I can, kicking her in the groin or knees as hard as I can, eye jabbing full force, head butting/biting, kaboshing her with a chair or whatever…Agreed. It’s difficult to train when you can’t really hit your training partner square in the nose/throat to disrupt his thought process.
Mike Tyson said that everyone has a plan, until they get hit in the mouth.
As with most techniques, there must be a strike delivered to distract/confuse, etc…..making your defense easier to implement.
I’ve had a training partner put on a mask and done a traditional defense against a straight stab and his reaction after getting punched WITH a a face shield is entirely different. They go backwards a bit, they stagger, making you have to react differently that a compliant partner, or one who HASN’T been hit and who’s thought process hasn’t been interrupted. Two/three entirely different scenarios.
Now remove the face shield and imagine what would happen? They may stagger more, some may not. It would definitely help, but dealing with a knife is complicated nonetheless.
Stay away from sharp objects!
Re: "Why I Don’t Pretend to Teach Knife Defense"
quote KMyoshi:Agreed with “Knife Survival.” But in most cases… by the time you realize there’s a knife involved, it’s usually too late which is the scary part.You are absolutely correct. In a perfect scenario, you would see the attack coming, it would be defined and you could apply the techniques we learn. Since most of the time, NONE of the above happen, the difficulty becomes more pronounced.
Stay away from sharp objects…….
Re: "Why I Don’t Pretend to Teach Knife Defense"
The term knife defense is sort of an oxymoron. I like to say knife survival.
A knife doesn’t jam, or malfunction, doesn’t matter if it’s dull or rusty, long or short, and you don’t have to be an expert to use it lethally.
Training to survive a knife attack is by far the most challenging aspect of self defense IMHO.
Stay away from people holding sharp objects!
Re: People Magazine article in 1976 with Imi
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20067113,00.html
Re: David Kahn "Mastering Krav Maga" series
quote tzrider:I have. They are good, though, as I noted in another thread, he shows some basic things (like the fighting stance) much differently than they are taught in KMWW. The principles seem consistent with what I’ve been taught so far, but some specifics in technique differ.David does teach the stance a little different, but he also add that it is HIS preference and that it is optional.
His original instructor(and mine) Rick Blitstein doesn’t teach it that way, nor do I.
As far as being the least evolved system, there are some people that have said that Haim’s system has added too much ground fighting to it, which is very different from the original system. He also is constantly refining it based on current threats faced in Israel. People who would do us harm are always evolving, so we have to as well.
I rather focus on not going to the ground, and if I do, get up as quick as possible before others arrive. Dirty fighting does, that, not fancy locks.
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Re: What is the workout/fitness part called?
FYI, I used Krav Maga as an example, and wasn’t picking on any organization, that happens in any MA school. Now that MMA is the new craze, there are so many opening up, that it has to be watered down in terms of content. So what I see is what I said earlier, lots of punching kicking and very little technique!
I’ve been wanting to open up a school for the last couple of years, but in my area, if you were able to draw a rectangle, that is 2 miles wide, by 3 miles long, there are at least 15 schools(Karate, JKD, MMA, etc….no Krav Maga) that I can count of the top of my head, without going up and down every single street. That’s just on the main drag.
I’ve stopped in a couple and notice a couple of things: Way too much cardio and classes are very large, so you aren’t getting much hands on instruction, the only way to keep the masses happy is to make them sweat, feel like they did something!
I’d say about 10 minutes per 1 hour class of warmup, then depending on what you are teaching, drilling, there is a workout aspect to that as well.
If you want crossfit, go do crossfit!
Re: What is the workout/fitness part called?
quote KevinMack:I think conditioning is important and schools should have classes for it but I dont like when it takes up so much of a Krav Maga class. Imi used to say that students should get their fitness outside of class and the class should be for Krav Maga training only.I agree 100%.
I’ve seen schools that make up for their lack of content and knowledge by burning too much class time warming up and cooling down throw in little technique and then burn them out by turning it into a cardio kick boxing class. Then people walked out all gassed and say, man that krav is some intense ****! So is taebo, but you don’t learn jack about defending yourself.
Re: Weapons Offense
At .50 seconds you can see a bit of what I’m talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhWkXry5d4k&feature=related
BTW, that in itself is a great drill for conditioning, practicing your strikes, etc…..
Re: Weapons Offense
Here’s a bit of offensive knife, stick, etc….of course it’s a demo where Yigal is showing how retsev is the central focus of krav and can/should be used with empty hands, stick, knife, etc…….
There is a 1 or 2 minute video where he only does knife at full speed that is pretty impressive.
Re: I am so disgusted with the barrage of fake Krav Maga. Can anyone help?
quote Sololegendary:And how does their system compare to the Haganah being offered at atlanta judo midtown? do you know?I’m not affiliated with KMWW, but I’d rather go to a KMWW school than and Haganah school.
KMWW is well run and organized, as opposed to Haganah which is a knock off of Krav Maga and has all sorts of legal problems. Google Mike Kanarek/Haganah and you’ll see there are a bunch of red flags!
Their main school is here in Florida, and I hear they are having major issues. If the main HQ is having problems, I sure as heck wouldn’t go to one in Georgia!
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Re: Moni/CKM
quote unstpabl1::woohoo:Love that movie@ Plantman. Agreed. I remember all the articles and the advertising that suddenly started disappearing from the web as he was called on things. I have no problem with the system and he could be an exceptional teacher/fighter but it becomes a simple matter of integrity.
I belong to a JCC here in Miami. There is a CKM instructor there and on his website it says the regular infantry is taught “normal” krav maga, while the special forces are taught CKM, Hagana, Lotar, etc……..
He seems like a likeable fellow who cares about his students and no doubt has been fed his info from Moni. I have discussed this with him and changes to his website are supposedly under way.
It sucks that I have to constantly have to explain to potential students the differences between the 2 systems.
If it had stayed Combat Survival(has a nice ring to it) he would have avoided a lot of headaches I imagine.
Cest la vie!
Re: Moni/CKM
The issue with Moni and CKM stems from his claims many years ago that he co-founded Krav Maga, or rather was asked to add to the system because his unit got ambushed,lost a lot of members, etc……
This was false and he has since cleaned up his story. He also used to claim that it was taught to “elite” IDF units. He has also backed off of that, claiming that he only taught it to the “elite” unit he was in.
I don’t know how “elite” his unit was or if he even belonged to one. What I can tell you is that CKM is not taught in any official capacity at the IDF. There is no more elite unit in the IDF than the counter terror school and it not used there at all. Just ask Nir Maman and he’ll tell you the same thing. As far as being top secret,classified, etc…..once again, Nir was the top instructor at the top unit and I don’t see him having issues with revealing what he did, so that part of his story seems fishy to me.
I don’t think anyone doubts his martial arts skills at all, just his claims.
Fundamentally, the systems are similar yet very different. For example, the cross block they use against knife attacks is completely different than what is normally done and no other KM organization uses it.
I’ve been around Krav Maga since 2003 and back then he called his system combat survival. KMWW started getting very popular and I guess he wanted to capitalize on that popularity and added Commando to Krav Maga, making it sexier.
His system may or may not be good. His system may of may not be better than Krav Maga, all I can say is where there is smoke, you will usually find fire.
Have a great day! If you enjoy CKM, good for you.
Re: Liberate yourself from Traditional Krav Maga!
quote jjbklb:Could you describe what the “shelved technique” is?When someone throws you into a shelf!
Just kidding, he means shelved as in, put it on a shelf because it’s been replaced by something more efficient/practical, etc….
