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Re: Thank You Darren Levine!!!!
Thanks to Donavin for all his hard work on the new school and making the seminar a reality. I have always been proud to train in Krav…now I am proud and feel lucky to be training Krav here in Vegas!
Thank you Darren! The seminar was thought provoking and brought clarity to the techniques you taught. I especially appreciate being able to talk with you during the break. I sincerely hope to be able to train with you again here in Vegas.
Daniel
Re: What do you ride??
Currently own: ’05 Suzuki DL1000 V-Strom – Hence my forum name “Desert Strom”
’02 Suzuki DR400Have owned in the past 10 yrs. or so: Yamaha 650 Twin
Honda Nighthawk 750
Yamaha YZF-R6
Suzuki 1500LC IntruderRe: It’s Time That We Change Things
A long winded post from someone who lurks a lot but doesn’t post often, but…please hear me out…
Speaking as a relatively new student to Krav Maga I can only claim a rudimentary understanding of the differences and conflicts each branch of Krav represents. But I wanted to interject something about Psyop’s idea from purely a student’s…a ridiculously enthusiastic student’s…point of view.
I have dabbled in enough other systems that I have become pretty immune to their rhetoric pertaining to how this is the best, we are the greatest, this is the “way”. For the first time I have found in Krav a principal based system on the realities of how we can train to truly defend ourselves. From the basic mechanics, the aggressive spirit in which we train to the never say die attitude Krav instills, it undeniably serves the purpose of those looking to “walk in peace” with a realistic confidence. In a way I have become a little selfish. I am respectful to any who beleive they have something to teach, but I am extremely selective in what I will absorb based on…well…does my gut tell me it will really work. A type of prejudicial purity test that Krav seems to be geared toward passing everytime.
My reasons for studying any system are usually pretty far outside the history and politics of that system. I guess I am a litle bit more in the “now” when it comes to that. But I also am aware that systems and teachings are not just greatly influenced but are shaped by their origins and historical development. I certaintly can understand how differing histories and applications can shape the modern application and teaching of a system or style.
With that said…I think their are a large (mostly silent) majority of students who see Krav as I do…an efective culmination of fighting principals shaped for real self defense. I would love to see a gathering of many of the senior instructors from the different branches of Krav in the same room. Just to see that, even if nothing else was accomplished, would be a great opportunity for a self proclaimed purist like myself to gain a deeper understanding. I have little doubt that such a gathering of instructors who held core beleifs of Krav in common despite political differences in affiliations, would be great for us as students. With no disrespect pointed to any one branch or affiliation I think there are many of us who don’t take the time to understand or even care about those lawsuit worthy differences. I am here for core principals represented by Krav. It would be extremely exciting to see a large group of individuals gathered who believed so strongly in those same principals that they dedicated their lives to learning and teaching them.
Sorry for the long post with the multifarious run on sentences. I just wanted those instructors willing to read this to see that such a gathering would mean more to the student of Krav than you realize. If some political fence mending also occurs…great. But again, I am selfish and would just like to see something like this for what I, the student, could learn and experience from it.
Thanks
Re: It’s Time That We Change Things
A long winded post from someone who lurks a lot but doesn’t post often, but…please hear me out…
Speaking as a relatively new student to Krav Maga I can only claim a rudimentary understanding of the differences and conflicts each branch of Krav represents. But I wanted to interject something about Psyop’s idea from purely a student’s…a ridiculously enthusiastic student’s…point of view.
I have dabbled in enough other systems that I have become pretty immune to their rhetoric pertaining to how this is the best, we are the greatest, this is the “way”. For the first time I have found in Krav a principal based system on the realities of how we can train to truly defend ourselves. From the basic mechanics, the aggressive spirit in which we train to the never say die attitude Krav instills, it undeniably serves the purpose of those looking to “walk in peace” with a realistic confidence. In a way I have become a little selfish. I am respectful to any who beleive they have something to teach, but I am extremely selective in what I will absorb based on…well…does my gut tell me it will really work. A type of prejudicial purity test that Krav seems to be geared toward passing everytime.
My reasons for studying any system are usually pretty far outside the history and politics of that system. I guess I am a litle bit more in the “now” when it comes to that. But I also am aware that systems and teachings are not just greatly influenced but are shaped by their origins and historical development. I certaintly can understand how differing histories and applications can shape the modern application and teaching of a system or style.
With that said…I think their are a large (mostly silent) majority of students who see Krav as I do…an efective culmination of fighting principals shaped for real self defense. I would love to see a gathering of many of the senior instructors from the different branches of Krav in the same room. Just to see that, even if nothing else was accomplished, would be a great opportunity for a self proclaimed purist like myself to gain a deeper understanding. I have little doubt that such a gathering of instructors who held core beleifs of Krav in common despite political differences in affiliations, would be great for us as students. With no disrespect pointed to any one branch or affiliation I think there are many of us who don’t take the time to understand or even care about those lawsuit worthy differences. I am here for core principals represented by Krav. It would be extremely exciting to see a large group of individuals gathered who believed so strongly in those same principals that they dedicated their lives to learning and teaching them.
Sorry for the long post with the multifarious run on sentences. I just wanted those instructors willing to read this to see that such a gathering would mean more to the student of Krav than you realize. If some political fence mending also occurs…great. But again, I am selfish and would just like to see something like this for what I, the student, could learn and experience from it.
Thanks
Re: New and a question?
Congrats on the new baby Spy!!
I have been attending classes at CCS in Vegas for a little over a year and half. The instructors are excellent. I ruptured my ACL about a year ago. When I started back the instructors were really cool about working me out without destroying the knee. I have made a full recovery and the knee is holding up well.
Check out bodyweightculture.com for some excellent excercises that focus on strength through full range of motion with minimal joint impact. There are many excellent ideas there including the guy who does the “elastic steel” exscercices. Good Stuff!Hope to see you at class!
Re: Hello from Vegas
Metro,
I find it has been a great way to get back into or stay in shape. I still weight train and cycle to supplement my Krav workouts. I have heard Krav classes described as a long series of anaerobic bursts. So it can be pretty intense but always well worth it in the end.
Hope to see ya’ there tonight.
Daniel
Re: Hello from Vegas
Metro,
I have been taking Krav for about 1 & 1/2 years at CCS on Sahara. It has been excellent and the instructors are top notch. Hope to see you there.
Daniel
Re: Glucosamine Pain Management
I’m not a real doctor but I play one at work…we have stethoscopes and everything. (I am a veterinarian.) So I will give you the current thinking on glucosamine from the animal side. (Much of which translates over to us human animals.)
Glucosamine and products like it are designed to replace or help in the production of PSGAGs. (polysulfated glycose amino glycans) These are some of the building blocks of joint cartilage. Joint cartilage damage sets off a cascade of events within the joint itself. The main enemy is inflammation. Long term inflammatory changes will cause erosive joint cartilage damage and set up a vicous cycle of continued inflammation and joint breakdown. The aim is to stop the inflammatory process and allow for joint repair. This is where glucasamine comes into play. The idea is to provide the poorly vascularized joint cartilage with the products necessary to preserve or possibly reconstruct the basic building blocks of healthy, smooth joint surfaces. Studies have shown that glucosamine sulfate is much more effective than glucosamine hydrochloride at doing this. Sulfated glucosamine is less stable, harder to produce and usually more expensive. Read labels carefully.
The best results in animals and humans have been with a multi-modal approach. Control inflammation with NSAIDs, volatile fatty acid supplements (fish oils and such – mostly Omega 6) and supplement with products like glucosamine. As fair as soft tissue pain relief? Don’t think there is much. Although a couple studies have shown an unknown mechanism of anti-inflammatory action with long term use at high doses. Best thing though…no long term toxicity problems known as of now.
Well, hope this helps. Perhaps more than you ever cared to know but its my area and I get pretty interested in these things.
Re: Hello
Welcome! I have been training at the center you are talking about for a little over a year now. The instructors are excellent and the mix of students is refreshing. There has always been a good feeling of mutual respect at this school. The curriculum restructuring did start this January. They plan to not only progress through the “levels” as it were but my impression is that they are really trying to make us understand how each basic premise (foot work, body position, movement, etc.) tie into the next more advanced technique. With a strong understanding in basic premises they really want to see us flow into the next technique versus approaching each new defense or combination as something in a vacuum. There is also more emphasis on combining these techniques in more meaningful ways. Instead of just working on punches, then stopping and kicking, then stopping and defending punches, then stopping and defending kicks we now have drills that combine all these aspects. This makes for some good physical and mental workouts. In many ways more “real world”. Istructors keep telling us to pay attention and ingrain these basics as the intensity will continue to pick up.
For myself I have really enjoyed this change in pace so far. I don’t think you can go wrong. As for fees this center is extremely reasonable from what I learned from my “shopping” around a year ago.
Hope this helps. Hope to see you in class. I usually hit Monday AM and Thursday PM classes.
Re: ACL Replacement Surgery
Thank you for the welcome. I have been lurking for some time. I did mean “Strom”. I ride a Suzuki V-Strom motorcycle. I guess Strom is supposed to be German for flow. Maybe it has deep inner meanings for me or is just all I could think of at the time…who knows.
Dave…best of luck for a smooth surgery and speedy recovery.
Re: ACL Replacement Surgery
I may be a little late to this thread but just wanted to post my .02 worth.
Tore my left ACL 1 year ago at a Krav class. Years of Rugby, mountain biking, kick boxing and I manage to tear it during a simple excercise…great.
I was very lucky to be referred to a great surgeon. IMHO it is important to research the available options for ACL repair carefully. For me an achilles tendon cadaver graft was the best option. I beleive it is imperative to find a surgeon familiar with the technique you are going with. Even with this type of repqir there are several different surgical methods and theories on anchoring the graft to the bone. The latest techniques involve combinations of titanium and composite type screws and anchors. Be extrememly careful with hamstring and patellar grafts.
I had two months before my surgery and an aggressive PT on both legs was advised. Special attention was given to lite weight half sqauts, partial lunges and lots of hamstring strengthening. (It sounds odd but hamstring strengthening has some very direct tie ins with post-surgical recovery.) Cycling (spin classes) with reasonable loads on the legs was also encouraged.
Surgery was very smooth. Some very disturbing research has been released about long term effects of intra-articular infusion pumps for operative pain control. Long acting nerve blocks appear to be much safer. Inquire with surgeon and anesthesiologist before hand.
Post-op PT is the most crucial component. Finding a PT therapist who rehabs athletes is a good bet. My PT was amazing and had me back to 90% on the knee in 3 months. I resumed Krav after about 5 months. It has totally changed the way I condition my legs. I rely a lot more on weightless strengthening excercises that utilize full range of motion excercices. Excercises that emphasize proper knee alignment and low impact (ie – cycling, eliptical machines, lite weight lunges, etc.) are a core to my programs now. Maybe it is my wishful thinking but my legs are stronger and better conditioned for it.
Don’t be afraid to ask questions throughout the process and seek second opinions. It is amazing the wide variety of opinions and approaches even within one given repair technique. There is life after ACL tear.
Hope this helps.
Re: ACL Replacement Surgery
I may be a little late to this thread but just wanted to post my .02 worth.
Tore my left ACL 1 year ago at a Krav class. Years of Rugby, mountain biking, kick boxing and I manage to tear it during a simple excercise…great.
I was very lucky to be referred to a great surgeon. IMHO it is important to research the available options for ACL repair carefully. For me a achilles tendon cadaver graft was the best option. I beleive it is imperative to find a surgeon familiar with the technique you are going with. Even with this type of repqir there are several different surgical methods and theories on anchoring the graft to the bone. The latest techniques involve combinations of titanium and composite type screws and anchors. Be extrememly careful with hamstring and patellar grafts.
I had two months before my surgery and an aggressive PT on both legs. Special attention was given to lite weight half sqauts, partial lunges and lots of hamstring strengthening. (It sounds odd but hamstring strengthening has some very direct tie ins with post-surgical recovery.) Cycling (spin classes) with reasonable loads on the legs was also encouraged.
Surgery was very smooth. Some very disturbing research has been released about long term effects of intra-articular infusion pumps for operative pain control. Long acting nerve blocks appear to be much safer. Inquire with surgeon and anesthesiologist before hand.
Post-op PT is the most crucial component. Finding a PT therapist who rehabs athletes is a good bet. My PT was amazing and had me back to 90% on the knee in 3 months. I resumed Krav after about 5 months. It has totally changed the way I condition my legs. I rely a lot more on weightless strengthening excercises that utilize full range of motion excercices. Excercises that emphasize proper knee alignment and low impact (ie – cycling, eliptical machines, lite weight lunges, etc.) are a core to my programs now. Maybe it is my wishful thinking but my legs are stronger and better conditioned for it.
Don’t be afraid to ask questions throughout the process and seek second opinions. It is amazing the wide variety of opinions and approaches even within one given repair technique. There is life after ACL tear.
Hope this helps.
