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Re: level 1 vs level 2
Nothing is more amusing than a Level 1 student complaining because they think they are above Level 1 curriculum. I’ve been training for a number of years now. I occasionally drop in on a Level 1 class. I’m humbled every time.
Take the test. Prove it. Move on
Re: Why don’t all KM schools train all out?
quote danielsaun:Wow I took the trial and man I thought I was in shape, not to KM standards. My feedback on KM Denver, Lyle was my instructor.The Good
1. Allowed me to fully participate in the class.
2. Lyle was nice and helpful, but could have given a bit more instruction IMO, compared to my other school. It was just here is the technique here’s how you do and blast away.
3. It was intense started with 15 minutes of hard cardio and then a quick break, a quick instruction and then blast away with a small pad at full speed.The Bad
1. The never warned me to wear groin protection and Lyle kicked me in the nuts, not cool at all.
2. The train at full speed with small pads, bordering on dangerous esp. for a newbie like me. I almost got clocked in the face twice because my training partner told me to hold the pad here but he was much taller and the pad barely covered me on the elbow strike and then I did the gauntlet against a girl where I bear hugged her and because I was so much taller I couldn’t’ tuck my chin and she elbowed me in the face, luckily I am pretty tough and it was a girl hitting me not a guy.
3. They only allow 6 month or 12 month sign up and wanted an initiation fee. I said can’t we go month to month and they guy said we don’t have a gate keeper to keep track, BS, I said isn’t that what a computer is for.All in all I liked it and would consider going there if I work in downtown Denver or live closer as it is I am 35 miles away so I am going to check out another school closer.
I really liked the full speed drills, which we never do at my other school, but they need better safety gear, not small pads, for the money they charge.
Dude…You went from wanting to spar the first day to being afraid of the size of the pads….
Don’t discount the females. If anything is a testament to how well KM works, it’s the women!
I hope you find what you’re looking for in a gym. Although I don’t think an “MMA-Self Defense-No Contact but I like to spar- no music-with month-to-month contracts gym” exists
Re: Why don’t all KM schools train all out?
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quote danielsaun:Thank you. I don’t understand why no sparring is allowed at Level1? Level 1 takes 6 months to complete I have read? What am I going to be doing practicing movements, essentially katas for 6 months? If that’s the case I am totally confused. KM is supposed to be quick and easy to learn compared to other MA’s. I was able to learn the KM defense for knife/swinging right and apply it correctly in my current class just by watching instructional videos.I guess I could see during Level 1, doing the drills for about a month then letting people do some light sparring, then a month later if ready full hard contact full padded up. From what I have seen KM is easy to learn compared to FMA or Silat techniques. Where I think KM may fall short is that when the attack doesn’t work like you expect, because the world is dynamic, then what? There is little fluidity in KM compared to Silat or FMA from my limited viewing and experience. I don’t know about the focus on proper structure in KM but in Silat it’s everything.
I was already planning on checking out KM in Denver and comparing it to the other KM schools in Denver metro.
Have you ever seen a Level 1 student with no prior training attempt to spar? Search YouTube for a video called “Chicken with their head cut off” 😉
You have to start with a good foundation before you can start to become more “Dynamic”. I think the fact that you can learn knife defense via a video is great, but I would bet my life savings you couldn’t do it under stress with a real knife. That’s where the repetition of KM kicks in.
Good luck with your training. Stay open minded.
Re: Hate to see this
quote stuartf:I really appreciate that KM features fitness, fighting, and self defense. And people will be attracted to it for varying balances of those three aspects, but it would be nice if articles like the one in the OP could point out that they’re using KM inspired movement for a fitness routine instead of just calling it Krav Maga.My point. Thank you 🙂
Re: Hate to see this
quote CJs Dad:While I admit it’s not for everyone I personally don’t see anything wrong with having a fitness client who asks if you can blend some krav style moves into your workout routine.Her trainer is Jarrett Arthur the blonde whos elbowing me in the face in the forum banner. Shes a solid Black Belt and an amazing instructor.
I really don’t see anything wrong with her form…. so?
Respect to you and everyone involved in the article. It’s just bothersome to see Krav Maga represented as a series of “moves” you can “integrate into your routine”. I know numerous females that pour their hearts into kicking serious ass that are annoyed by this type of stuff.
Respect
Re: Hate to see this
quote bear34:Got to admit she is very cute though.No doubt, but when did they invent Tae Bo Krav Maga?
Stuff like this makes me cringe.
…and what the hell is “striking down”? Punching to the ground while holding a squat?
Re: My observations on Krav Maga culture,it’s growth and instructors.
quote rickprado:Here’s the same guys personal protection site. Love the glasses.He obviously spends more time being a bad ass than he does examining the possible IP infringement lawsuits he’s looking at with that website.
Re: Level 1 Test
quote Charlie1:Really just a 4 hour test with the other 4.5 hours of review. I heard our level 2 test is about the same amount of time. I’m glad I can rest easy for a while and just enjoy the classes, as that test is probably at least 6-months away.8.5 hour test?!
I never understand why these marathon tests are given. I understand having to showcase your mental toughness, but students who train 2-3 days a week are risking serious injury at a certain point. I understand that 4 hours of it is workshop, but we all know students go harder than they should in these workshops.
Someone please explain the logic behind subjecting a Level 1 student to a test that’s 8.5 hours long.
Re: Liberate yourself from Traditional Krav Maga!
quote Psyops:StickFig,Without the horse and buggy, we would not have the automobile. Guess what? I don’t have a horse either. Traditional Martial Arts are fine for pagentry, history and cultural contributions. They also serve as a launch pad for combat systems. However they serve very little purpose for real self defense. They don’t teach self defense they teach techniques ,forms and katas. None of those things have anything to do with self defense.
My disdain for “McDojo” martial arts is well documented. Traditional martial arts have their place and their importance to the development of fighting systems is noted. I have trained in traditional systems and they have nothing to do with self defense. I am respectful to the arts and the cultural influence that each style has, but that is where it stops for me.
Most schools are not traditional at all. They masquerade as traditional but they are after school daycare centers that hand out belts like they hand out candy. Drive around and take a look into the windows of these places. See who’s teaching. Watch who’s training. It’s pathetic. So for every authentic traditional dojo I can show you 30 crappy Tae Kwon Suck facility. Belt factory has ruined martial arts.
I think people with something to prove has ruined martial arts worse than “McDojos” ever will.
Re: Liberate yourself from Traditional Krav Maga!
You spend an awful lot of time on that blog bashing traditional martial arts. Without them I’m not sure you would be around doing what you do. Spending time debating which type of traditional martial art is the best is why MMA/KM is even around today.
Ironic huh?
Re: sparring in KM ???
There are a number of schools who regularly post their “fight class” videos online in various places (Facebook/Twitter). Some of it is quality sparring. Some of it is just plain ugly….Not to mention has the potential for someone to get really injured (No head gear…8oz gloves…)
With that said, I think Krav Maga sparring has it’s benefits, but out of control brawling isn’t helping anybody IMO. In a typical Level 2 class you might have some folks with prior experience sparring, but most are just developing their techniques. You wouldn’t learn how to ride a bike and then 6 months later sign up for the Tour De France….
There is a lot to be said for controlled sparring. Working on one or two techniques and the the defense associated with it (potentially with multiple attackers). I think too often students get used to having big pillows on their hands (Boxing Gloves) and forget the techniques designed to save their life on the street.
No disrespect to those schools who post their “Fight” videos…Just my observation.
Re: Are we being true to the system?
quote zvor:Oh and for the record, those KM San Diego vids featuring Darren were really good!That’s because both Krav gyms in San Diego are amazing! The reporter in the video is a student at my school and trains regularly. She has done a great job doing pieces on Krav Maga.
The OP’s video showed a reporter that obviously doesn’t train.
Re: Are we being true to the system?
I can see where the OP is coming from….
I see a lot of this type of Krav marketing/demonstration on talk shows/internet/news and it makes me sick everytime. The piece that was posted was clearly designed for it’s audience. As people who train Krav, we all know that not every class is that “loosey goosey”. However, I see more and more of these types of video floating around on TV.
I think what the OP is trying to point out is that by marketing the system to folks who want to get into a “fitness” routine, we are opening the system up to becoming less than it was originally intended. (I’m not saying KMWW does this)
With that said, gym owners have a business to run and if these videos attract a broader range of folks then more power to them….
Re: Fight Science
quote Kirsten:I am so excited about that one too! Amir and Sam are such bada$$es… but also the two nicest people you will ever meet. And Kelly is representing for us bada$$ women. 🙂 I can’t wait and will make sure to record it this time! Go Amir, Sam and Kelly!!Please add Kelly Cambell to the “Nicest people” list too….. 🙂
Re: To Be or Not to Be – Instructor Training
Do it!
I couldn’t even speak the first day of Phase A. I was so nervous that my mouth dried up to the point where I was frozen with fear of speaking in front of the class. By the end of the week, I passed.
Even if you never teach a class solo, you can say you passed Phase A training, which is a select club and a great accomplishment!
Go for it! You won’t regret it!
