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quote \”dalamar\:Wim,I dont’ know your lifestyle, age, gender, etc. But I would suggest not getting surgery on the ACL, at least for a while until you know for sure you can’t live without it.
Well, I am considering not having it, although my doctor, who certainly has told me that a lot of people really shouldn’t get the surgery, has also told me that I’m taking quite a risk continuing with things like Krav Maga, snowboarding, squatting, etc, without having the surgery. Basically, my knee isn’t structurally sound right now, and hard kicking or pivoting could tear more ligaments. Still… I’m not eager to have that surgery…
Try a torn lateral meniscus and a torn ACL from stepping backward during choke defenses in about the 3rd month of my Krav training… Sucks bad. I’ve had one surgery for the meniscus about a month ago, but I still need to have my ACL reconstructed, except I’m worried about being immobile because my father’s quite sick and I might need to go see him at a moment’s notice. The ACL surgery scares the pants off of me — stealing ligament from the kneecap, drilling holes through my thigh and shin bones, and threading the ligament through. It takes months before that ligament gets the blood supply back, so the surgery could easily fail. Plus, it just sounds painful. The arthroscopic one I had to fix my meniscus was painful enough… I’m tempted just to leave it alone.
I think Krav probably has more \”Eastern\” ideas than \”Western\” ideas.
I’d say that, as happens, martial artists with a more \”Eastern\” background will most certainly think that their art is the best — doesn’t every one?
What makes you think that \”Eastern\” martial artists don’t understand Krav Maga?
I don’t think that \”we\” seem to have the idea that boxing and wrestling are inferior to eastern martial arts. Although, Kung-Fu movies have done a lot to promote martial arts, and martial arts are more all-encompassing, and generally much more self-defense oriented, while boxing and wrestling are clearly sport oriented.
I think most ingelligent people can see the weakness in knowing how to use your hands well, but nothing else, or knowing how to pin people to the ground, but nothing else. Still, both boxing and wrestling can be very successfully used in self-defense.
I’ve watched the videos on attackproof.com, and I think they look like complete bull. Now what should I watch?
I think the best thing that you can do is to talk to some of the students. Most importantly, talk to students you feel might be looking to get the same thing out of the class that you are (i.e. if you desire to be a tough guy, find the tough guys). It really takes months to get a feel for what a school is all about. Intro classes can only give you a very superficial insight.
… spent the day after my wedding at a 6 hour seminar ala Ryan Hoover… Ah, love… of Krav 😛
Oh, and more recently, I went to multiple classes while having a torn meniscus, possibly a torn ACL, and needing surgery (which I’ll be lucky enough to get tomorrow)
I never quite understood why we say \”bow\” while we bow… 😕
Is it common to bow in Israel anyways???
Unfortunately, I won’t be able to come. My son’s birthday party ended up falling on that day… plus I royaly screwed my knee up the other day. I don’t suppose you guys have anything else coming up, do you?
Krav is actually taught in a way that is very incremental and that allows you to attain real, usable skills very quicly. In my opinion, it’s actually one of the strongest points of Krav. For instance, groin kicks are taught early, as are straight punches, but things like ax kicks and hook punches are left for higher levels. This gives you a solid, effective, yet small arsenal right off the bat — the type of techniques that could save your life are yours within weeks. You’ll spend all of Level 1 honing just those skills, then Level 2 will continue to work with those skills, plus it will add some others.
It looks like cheesy movie-fu to me. I sure hope it’s not Krav.
But yeah, I saw the show — in all of it’s High Def glory. It’s probably only the 3rd time I’ve watched it though.
Can you take a BJJ intro class to see if you like it? That’d be a good place to start. BJJ does focus a lot on the ground. I’d say that a lot of BJJ schools don’t really do much punching, kicking or anything else. However, that seems to be changing as UFC/vale tudo interest increases. It really depends on the school, so you’d have to talk to the instructor. Krav does get into choke holds and locks, etc. There is groundwork in Krav, although it’s philosophy is that you need to stay on your feet during a fight (rightly so, in my opinion), so obviously the focus is on standup. You should also check to see if the Krav class offers extra groundwork classes, which many do. My school does, along with a sparring class — honestly those are two major reasons why I joined my school.
The two arts are sort of at opposite ends of the specturm, with some amount of overlap. They compliment each other well, so taking both is definitely great if possible.
I have a lot of respect for BJJ. It definitely is effective, mostly because it takes 99% of people out of their element, into a zone that they’re not at all familiar with (the ground). However, I take Krav for a reason — because I feel that, in the real world, it’s more effective and safer to use (I’m not falling all over the concrete trying to take you down). I also think that you really have to know both standup and ground in order to be a really good fighter. I don’t think that Krav alone (without extra groundwork classes) or BJJ alone (without extra standup classes) will make you a really good fighter. Also, BJJ can, at some schools, be a little too sport oriented, which is fine if that’s what you want. But, if you’re looking for self-defense, that may be a problem. That said, Krav can, at some schools, be a little too conditioning oriented, which is fine if that’s what you want too.
