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Re: Greg Jackson’s Book and Self Defense
Probably not against a shove as it is since the shover’s hands aren’t maintaining contact with your body for a significant length of time. An inside defense would work well because a shove is almost like a slow palm-heel strike to your chest or clavicle. And since a shove relies on bodyweight over technique, an inside defense would definitely throw the shover off balance and right into your fist or elbow. Sucks for them. 🙂
Re: gun grab revisited
I’ve seen videos describing grabbing the gun as close to the trigger guard as possible to limit the possibility of the sight gashing you as an attacker recoils. Another plus to the placement of the grab is that there’s a slight, but real, possibility you’ll jam a revolver before it’s fired because you can interfere with the rotation of the barrel. It also helps to grab close to the trigger guard, as opposed to the center of the barrel, because some guns have compensated barrels that will burn your hand. Burn? Yeah, better than death, true, but I’m just relaying what I’ve seen.
Re: Karate or Krav Maga?
FYI about the earlier “rhino defense:” while I haven’t yet heard it explained in any of my KMWW classes, it is a KM defense for a hook or haymaker described by David Kahn of the IKMA in his book Krav Maga: An Essential Guide to the Renowned Method.
Re: Mexico shooting video
I saw this video a few months back when it was released, and I agree with Chocolate Soldier that the mistake people seem to make is to go for the person, not the weapon. I’ve never defended against a gun outside of the training room, so I can’t begin to criticize the defender’s tactics, but I’m sure that, as Jrodf4 mentioned, in a real-life scenario, the ****’s so deep and scary that it could be hard to get your head together; I suppose that’s what good training is for.
That said, from a KM perspective, a gun-threat-from-the-front defense (including aggressive striking) would probably have made the difference. Regarding the slippery shoes, Jarret Waldman from KMWW Sherman Oaks has a video on YouTube explaining a gun defense from the front with the defender on his knees. A tactic like that may have helped the defender in the defender in the video a great deal. Sad as it is, videos like these allow us to analyze real-life situations and help us train better.
Re: Bursting
I guess who’s on the committee doesn’t really matter. What honestly matters to me more than who’s on the committee is whether or not the committee is discussing current techniques. I train at KMWW Sherman Oaks, and, of course, I respect every single instructor there and I know they’re worth their weight. I’m just concerned about keeping the learning current, as was mentioned with the gun defense earlier.
Re: Bursting
Which leads me again to the unanswered question I posted a few days back on another thread: how are the techniques KMWW uses updated, and who is the technique committee that discusses them?
Re: How many days per week of Krav Classes
When I first started (~ 2 months ago), I was gone after, like, 2 days per week. After a month of that, I’m up to four or five days per week, plus CrossFit WODs. My weeks are weird, and I have a 24/7 on-call contract with my job, so I’ll make it to as many classes as I can. Because the WODs are three-on/one-off, every few days I’ll take an extra day off krav.
Re: holding for knee strikes
I could be wrong, but from what I’ve seen, if you’re holding at the wrist of an extended arm, it’s probably for a short period of time before you disarm an edged weapon or stick, take the attacker to the ground, or to maneuver the arm for arrest or control. I’ve learned grabbing the trapezius and triceps, arm-locks, and clinches for knees. To switch from side to side, I’ve learned to cross arms (and deliver a delicious forearm to the jaw while doing it), clinch, and to move my hands over the attacker’s head.
Re: Gun Defenses against a revolver
Good points. Getting your finger hurt or severed is better than dying.
Re: evolving attacks and their defenses
OK, new question for this old thread. The technique committee that meets at Noble… who are they and where are they getting their techniques? Are they training in Israel and bringing those techniques back or are they modifying the techniques on their own?
Re: Gun Defenses against a revolver
Instead of grabbing the barrel, would it be feasible to modify the technique and just use a flat hand to push the barrel and/or chamber out of the way while moving in, throwing combatives and controlling the wrist while removing the gun holding the chamber? If the hand is flat, would the blast coming from the chamber still affect the hand, or is it directional, only blasting straight ahead?
That sounds convoluted as written. I’m imagining this happening and it looks much more vivid.
Re: Training differences
It does, perfectly. Are any of those techniques taught at the higher levels in the regular krav curriculum?
Re: Ground work on the Level 1 Curriculum
From the few hours of ground work training I’ve had during my level 1 training (I’m still level 1), there’s no rocking involved. If you’re on your back, you throw your kick, and while you’re recoiling you plant your hands on your kicking leg side, crunch up, bring your kicking leg that you’re recoiling underneath you as you press up with your hands and end up in fight stance. From what I know, this is one of the few times you ever move backward in krav. I believe the basics are the same if you’re on your side, but I’m not sure about that.
Re: What did you do in Krav Maga class today?
As a level 1 student:
Warm-up
- Jogging around the room
- Jogging with high knees
- Shuffling facing in and out of the circle
- Shadow boxing while running
- Running 3/4 of the room, sprinting the last 1/4
- 4-count pushups
- Divebombers
- Squats
Combatives
- Straight punch free work on tombstone
- Knee free work on kick pads
- Hammer punches
Drills
- Headlock defense w/ eyes closed, lights off, by different people at random
Re: Criticizing krav knife
quote :The FMA defense/counter takes longer to learn and I’ve found to me a lot more timing based response.I’ve only been training in KM for a little over a month, so I don’t know if the following also applies to it, but what I like about the FMA is an angle-of-attack defense. Based on my limited KM experience, I can see this philosophy applied via the 360 defense. We were running a drill this morning where our partner was pressuring us with punches and rushes from all angles, moving us around the room, into corners, walls, obstacles, and each other, and I found myself instinctively blocking angular attacks instead of reacting to which attack my partner was throwing. For example, when my partner threw a hammer fist from overhead, I just found myself thinking block that attack from above, and when he attacked from the side, I thought to block that attack from the side, not he’s throwing a hammer fist from over my head, use block 1 and he’s throwing a hook, use block 3.
My point is that regardless of how well a knife is used, there are only so many angles from which it can be thrust. It’s either coming from above, below, the side, or an angle in-between, and KM defenses seem to work appropriately (from what I know so far, anyway). I think a bigger danger is how long the blade is. My colleague at work (who I’ve been trying to get to join and train with me) is a fencer, so I’d be particularly afraid to defend against a sabre or a foil, especially against someone who knows how to use it. (Are there defenses for long edged weapons in KM?) Even the 8- and 10-inch blades some of the attackers use in the videos can be defended with KM defenses. Plus, the one thing I have to keep reminding myself is that a successful defense means you escape alive; some people seem to think the success of a defense rests on whether or not you get stabbed at all, which, in all likelihood, you probably will, or at least get cut.
