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Re: Problems with Knife Disarms

quote CJs Dad:

Hmmm respectfully I disagree.

Theres a huge difference between being hit by Amir/Darren/Psyops (the 225+ club) and being hit by a lawn gnome. By the same token hitting one of those guys might just make them angry. Iíve personally seen Kelly who we all know is no slouch, full swing hit BrentW straight in the forehead with a rattan stick and he barely noticed the inconvenience of the blood.

The point being is we train the full technique because we donít know the size disparity or potentially mitigating circumstances of the attacker like drug or alcohol influence.

Cavaliers work when done correctly, Jaretta is maybe 110 lbs on a good day and she has never had a problem taking the knife from me. (she’s the blonde elbowing me in the face in the forums banner)

Train hard and just pray you never have to use it.

Just to clarify, when we do contact drills with gloves on, we don’t go 100% power. Full technique, yes, but not full power. Do you guys go all out in full contact drills?

:box2::chair::combat::box: rofl2

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Re: Problems with Knife Disarms

quote stevetuna:

I agree – those shirts will be a runaway best seller!

Back to the question of knife defenses… Darren Levine emphasized the importance of the simultaneous strike with the 360 block at a seminar that I took. He said pretty much what CarpeCanis had heard from the IDF folks – the strike almost always became a disarm. And if the first strike didn’t, then the second one did…

Something I’ve learned, when we do the 360 defense with full gear on, a simultaneous punch to the chin at 50% power has *always* stopped additional attacks.

I can only imagine that without 16 oz gloves, headgear, and mouthpiece, a reasonable strike to the head will have the same or better effect.

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Re: Moni’s claims

quote DevilNuts:

Dishonesty betrays a character flaw that cannot be ignored, no matter how good the system may be.

If one will cut corners to promote the system, what other shortcuts were taken?

Well put. If an instructor does not have personal integrity, then everything he or she teaches is counterfeit.

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Re: Krav Maga: How to Defend Yourself Against Physical Attack

quote Ryan:

I understand that is the history. Look, the FACT is, Imi has been dead 10 years. I simply think it is a bit questionable to put his name on a book now. Just my opinion.

Yeah, I agree it’s a bit suspect to put Imi’s name on it. I’m willing to accept that the book was in progress during Imi’s life, and is based on material he and Eyal committed to writing over a period of several years.

I will for sure get this book.

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Re: This article is not at all biased (rolling my eyes)

This article ignores the enormous leaps that make Krav Maga so compelling. The jumps from sport to streetfighting, and from military to civilian.

As the article says “In 1963 Imi retires from the IDF and opens his civilian Krav Maga club in Netanya.” And unfortunately did not expand on that point.

The development of the civilian curriculum is the main appeal of Krav Maga. Without it, it would just be a military fighting system, about as important or desirable as whatever it is they teach soldiers, anywhere. Useful to the soldiers, I’m sure, but not so appealing to the average joes that want to learn to defend themselves. The average joes who will plunk down $100 a month to learn something effective, fast, and field tested by people in harm’s way.

To call Imi “influential” in developing the civilian version, is like saying gambling provides some employment to Las Vegas. Is there anyone else that brought modern Krav Maga out of the military and into the civilian mainstream, besides Imi and his principal students? The article doesn’t mention anyone else by name, but treats that point as if there are others of equal import.

Anyway, Psyops I look forward to reading what you have to say.

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Re: Ran Nakash is a pro boxer ??

Here’s to hoping that Ran does a seminar in Southern California.

I like how he has excelled at training soldiers, and at sportfighting. Makes me think of a certain Krav Maga founder called Imi. :combat:

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Re: Hello from a doc in Milwaukee 🙂 – a few questions

I agree with Rz1’s statment about Krav not teaching a lot of restraints, if that’s what you’re looking for. It does go against the basic KM philosophy of finishing your opponent and leaving ASAP. So, the civilian curriculum has very little of that.

Maybe your concern is the patient who suddenly becomes unhinged and attacks you or others? Maybe picks up a weapon? I can see Krav Maga being useful in that situation.

I walk with pepper spray also, thankfully haven’t had to use it.

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Re: Location is everything!

quote Realnie:

:confused:
I currently live in a place where the is no KM training available at all (we dont even have a mall for 150 miles). My fellow officers and I are all interested in training and need some advice:

Is there any way we can properly train in our own home by using videos and various other publications?

If so, what are the best resources?

We have all the neccessary training equiptment, IE: Non-Guns, Kick Pads.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
PO3 USCG

Very good question. As a student, the problem I have with relying on videos and books, is you can sometimes only miss one detail to make an otherwise powerful defense very dangerous to you.

Maybe something as simple (and common) as not moving your head out of the line of fire when doing a gun defense. I still see 5+ year students including myself, sometimes forget that detail but we are fortunate to have instructors and fellow students that know to catch that error.

It’s possible, though, if you can get enough people together, you can negotiate with an instructor to come out and do an all day or multi-day seminar. I would think instructors would jump on this, they know civvies like me love to train with instructors that also teach military. If it works out, maybe have them come out every couple of months or so for “tune-ups.”

There are several excellent instructors that post here. Stay tuned and I’m sure you’ll get some great responses.

IMO, quality instruction like this coupled with videos and books could work.

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Re: Gentlemen, wearing your groin protector outside of your trousers is a *bad* idea

quote mara_jade:

Oh I agree with you bigtime! What I don’t get are GALS who don’t wear cups! There’s insane there but if you can stand it, all I can say is more power to you.

I’d tried a unisex one, but my kicks went to pot using it. I’m still looking for that perfect one (using Title right now) but I need to remember the name of one that one my instructors uses. It only took ONE TIME hubby grazing me that I swore I’d NEVER be without mine in any KM classthumbsup

Yeah I don’t get this either. I’ve accidentally kneed a couple of uncupped ladies in class, and they went down hard. Almost as bad as a guy.

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Re: BJJ Vs KM

quote JamesH:

Introduce a knife into the equation.

Great thread! And posts. The way my instructor drives the knife/multiple attacker point home, is just casually walk up to students that are grappling, and very deliberately start stabbing them.

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Re: Commando Krav Maga / CKM / Moni Aizik

quote mikeperezmiami:

(sigh)

Thatís pretty much the response (as a troll) I figured I would get.
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Fixed it for you thumbsup

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Re: Martial Arts (JiuJitsu) in real world

quote Kazak4x4:

Even though this is not directly Krav, but close JiuJitsu, I found this story quite amusing and rewarding.

http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/local/37069754.html

I am a Krav student and have my 5 year old boy taking classes from the same trainer. So I am excited to see that all this training pays off for other kids.

Nice to see a real world example of “defense against a dog” which seems to come up once in a while in this forum, and usually not very seriously.

I take my 5 yr old son out for walks in a nearby canyon, and we frequently see unleashed dogs and their over-confident owners.

We were charged once by an unleashed pitbull that was chased by its two humans, who were shouting “stop!” “stop!” and “heel!” to no effect whatsoever. Thankfully, the dog seemed curious and friendly rather than aggressive, but it opened my eyes to the “what if” scenario that we hear about so frequently with pit bulls.

Anyway, on these walks with my son I carry a can of pepper spray and have one hand around it when I see an unleashed dog. I’m told this will have little effect on a pit bull but I will use it anyway, with, I guess, stomp kicks to keep it out of range, then hopefully there’s a rock nearby that I can pick up to attack it with.

Anyone have any experience/tips on fighting an aggressive dog?

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Re: smell

There was a fellow student once who never washed their handwraps, this was years ago and I can remember his bright yellow handwraps like it was yesterday. Man, doing choke defenses with him, not fun!

But, the point that criminals may not bathe is well taken.

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Re: How old are you guys/

quote Alamocitykid:

Turned 70 on Thanksgiving. I really like this stuff although I now limit most of my efforts to level one and fitness classes. I’m convinced that those techniques will help get me out of trouble if necessary.

You the man! I am almost 41 and having a great time.

I stopped feeling sorry for myself as far as getting older and how that affected me physically, about a year ago and have since made excellent gains in strength and cardio.

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Re: Lethargic moves and the efficiency of the lessons

quote Cigaro78:

Let’s see: the exercise is 360 defense with counter attack. Both partners are right handed. The ‘attacker’ throws a weak cross in slow motion that has absolutely no chance to hit. The defender blocks correctly, counter attacking simultaneously with say, a cross of his own, aimed vaguely at the jaw of his attacker. But it’s also a slow one (clearly out of fear of hurting the partner) and it never connects. Then here’s the bit that really gets me: the attacker now stops moving completely, while the defender continues the counter by correctly side stepping to the left, and delivers 2 hammerfist to the head – but in such an apathetic manner that it looks more like a little joyful windmill of the fist rather than the brutal, devastating attack it’s supposed to mimic. In the end, this has nothing to do with a real fight, and frankly I just don’t understand how this could help learning much in terms of useful, applicable defense technique.

Speaking as a student, I’ll offer a bit of feedback.

It’s possible the instructor is planning to increase the intensity as the competence of the students increase? Ideally, these 360 drills should involve the student being hit if they fail on the technique. Ultimately, these techniques need to be performed and learned under stress so they can be useful in the high duress of a violent encounter. If there’s no consequence of failure, i.e. being hit, then there is little stress involved in the training and the student is not well prepared to defend him or herself.

Based on your description, there’s little to no stress involved in the drill, but it’s also important that new students walk before they run and build their intensity only when they have a reasonable chance of not hurting each other.

From what I’ve seen intensity, while desired, isn’t always a given. It’s very easy, even with experienced students to fall into the habit of pantomime and acting like you’ve been hit when really your partner’s attacks or defenses are sloppy and weak. You develop a pattern and it can influence the whole class unless it’s recognized and steps are taken to correct it.

I would say the proper form to aspire to is more aggressive than you’re describing, but it could just be the phase your class is in now and perhaps greater intensity is in the future.

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